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1998\10\14@100747 by Adriano De Minicis

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Subject: [OT] mutilated digest
From: Christoph Klein <spam_OUThylaTakeThisOuTspamMAYN.DE>

> My copy of the piclist's digest 11-12 October seemed a bit short
> (that is it stopped after message 5).

Subject: Digest truncated.
From: Peter Crowcroft <.....peterKILLspamspam@spam@KITSRUS.COM>

> My digest today was only 6 messages long. 67 messages were missing! Almost
> every digest I get is missing the last 2-8 messages. This one is a record.
> Does it happen to other people too? Can it be fixed please?

Subject: Help Truncated PICLIST Digest - 11 Oct 1998 to 12 Oct 1998
From: Mark Jurras <mjurrasspamKILLspamYAHOO.COM>

> Once again my copy of the digest has come in truncated. Does anyone
> know if I can get the Listserv(er) to resend it? Does anyone know why
> the digest is periodically truncated?

Hi all,
I repost a message regarding this problem I posted on the list
some time ago. Sorry for the bandwith, but this problem is
related to the list (for those that receive digests).

Adriano

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> My copy of the 31 Aug - 1 Sept digest ended at message 37.
> Messages 38 to 46, as indicated in the header were missing. ?

I also noticed sometimes this problem with piclist digests.

The messages are not missing, only "hidden". If one (or more)
messages in the digest contains a line composed of *exactly* 32
dash ("-") characters (no other character at the beginning or end
of the line), that line is interpreted by MIME as an "end of file",
so the other messages in the digest got lost.

Sometimes those lines are present in the signature of a message.
So, if you have exactly 32 dashes in one line of your signature,
PLEASE change that number to any other (avoid also 30 that is
message separator), thank you.

To solve the "bug" I edit the file containg the digest, searching
for the that line and changing it (overwriting one of the dashes
with a space is sufficent), being careful to not vary the lenght
of the file. Note that the last line of the digest must have 32
dashes.

For those using Netscape, here is the method I use:
(Warning: it may mess-up the mailbox, do it carefully!)

1) When I receive the piclist digest in my Inbox, as first
  thing I check that there aren't missing messages. This is
  easily done, clicking on the "paper clip" button, counting
  the number of "envelopes" (every row has ten icons) and
  comparing with the number of messages stated at the beginning
  of the digest. If they are the same, OK, otherwise:
2) Select menu "File"->"Compress Folders"
  (this steps avoid garbage when editing the file)
3) Exit Netscape Messenger (not necessary, but safer)
4) Edit the Netscape "Inbox" file as above mentioned with an
  ascii editor (your path will probaby be "C:\Program Files\
  Netscape\Users\YOUR_NAME_MAY_VARY\").
  Notes:
  4a) the editor must be capable of loading files bigger
      than 64kB (Notepad can't, a good freeware editor is
      EmEditor). For extra caution, I make sure not to vary
      the lenght of file (overwrite the line, don't insert
      characters). Variyng the lenght may cause problems if
      messages are indexed, and I don't want to mess-up my mailbox.
  4b) DON'T MODIFY the last line of the file, it MUST have 32
      dashes, as it is the REAL "end of file".
  4c) If you are not sure what are you doing, do a backup copy
      of the file before editing.
5) When done, save the file, exit from the editor and relaunch
  Messenger. Now the digest should show all messages.

A quick and dirty solution: search where your mail reader stores
the incoming message, and read it with a text editor that can handle
(very) big files (usually all messages are concatenated, so this
file can be very big). Use the "find" command to search for the
piclist digest.

1998\10\14@134243 by Sean Breheny

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Hi All,

At 12:29 PM 10/14/98 +0200, you wrote:
>The messages are not missing, only "hidden". If one (or more)
>messages in the digest contains a line composed of *exactly* 32
>dash ("-") characters (no other character at the beginning or end
>of the line), that line is interpreted by MIME as an "end of file",
>so the other messages in the digest got lost.
>
>Sometimes those lines are present in the signature of a message.
>So, if you have exactly 32 dashes in one line of your signature,
>PLEASE change that number to any other (avoid also 30 that is
>message separator), thank you.
>

FLAME SHIELDS AT MAXIMUM

I just edited my signature. It DID have two lines that contained 32 dashes,
but those lines also began and ended with a plus sign, so I originally
didn't think that they would be intercepted by MIME, but I changed it to 31
dashes just in case.

Is my suspicion correct? Does it have to be a line of ONLY 32 dashes and
nothing else?

FLAME SHIELDS DOWN

Thanks,

Sean


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1998\10\15@093216 by Adriano De Minicis

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Hi Sean,

> I just edited my signature. It DID have two lines that contained 32
> dashes, but those lines also began and ended with a plus sign, so I
> originally didn't think that they would be intercepted by MIME, but
> I changed it to 31 dashes just in case.
>
> Is my suspicion correct? Does it have to be a line of ONLY 32 dashes
> and nothing else?

You are right, your previous signature was OK.
The trouble (truncated digest) arises ONLY if the line contains
EXACTLY 32 (or 30) dashes, AND nothing else attached.

So if your signature has any other character (I'm not sure if a space
is ok) in front of 32 dashes, it causes no harm.

Adriano

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