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'Seminar'
1995\06\10@074035 by Bryan Crotaz

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OK - given the _enormous_ market for PICs in the UK (even Europe),
ie me and blokey at Manchester( whose name escapes me, you know, the
one with the programmer), when will the Microchip Seminar be visiting London
and Manchester?
Alternatively, we would be glad to accept your invitation to Vancouver for
$25 - including flights?

Bryan

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'Seminar'
1996\06\07@083852 by Donald F. Wright Jr.
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I went to the pic seminar yesterday, and thought I would share my experience.

We got our PICSTART PLUS at the seminar.  Pretty neat.  No more open circuit
board with feet on the bottom.

If you are just starting out with PIC processors, this is a must see.  Not
only do you learn a lot from the seminar, but you get info on new stuff
right from the horses mouths.  The new LCD chips should be neat!  Plus you
can get the programming stuff cheap.

I would recomend this to anybody interested in the PIC!


  Donald Frederick Wright Jr.

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1996\06\07@102457 by T.Nelson

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On Fri, 7 Jun 1996, Donald F. Wright Jr. wrote:

> I went to the pic seminar yesterday, and thought I would share my experience.
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> I would recomend this to anybody interested in the PIC!


Would Mr. Wright (or someone in the know) please provide more info on
where to find out info on PIC seminars (like when and where)?

Thanks.

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'Seminar'
1998\06\05@170150 by andre
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Does anybody who is going to the June 10  seminar in Westlake want to
get
together?

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Andre


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1999\04\22@232748 by Tony Nixon
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Hiall,

I just got an invite to the Microchip seminar in Melbourne.

It's on the 25th May 1999

Leonda By The Yara
2 Wallan Rd
Hawthorn

Anyone interested,

Contact Zatek on 03 9574 9644

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1999\04\23@002140 by Jim Paul

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Tony,

I attended the Microchip Advanced Seminar in Houston, Texas USA just today.
They have a lot of good information about the new additions to the lineup.
Don't miss it.


Regards,


Jim
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1999\04\23@122740 by engelec

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Hi to all,

Speaking of seminar I am wondering if any one from this list
is going to go to Microchip's Advanced Seminar  on  April 27 in LA.

Andre





Jim Paul wrote:

> Tony,
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> I attended the Microchip Advanced Seminar in Houston, Texas USA just today.
> They have a lot of good information about the new additions to the lineup.
> Don't miss it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim
> {Original Message removed}


'Seminar'
1999\05\25@194057 by Tony Nixon
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Hi all,

I attended the Microchip seminar yesterday. Overall, it was quite a good
day. Even got a 16F877 to play with.

I have to admit, when the 16C8XXX series comes out, it is going to make
PIC programming a lot easier. Its nearly akin to getting the flat memory
model to work with on a PC, plus addressable stack, W Reg etc, seperate
PORT in/out data latches.

I was looking through the data sheet for the 16F87X chips also, and it
struck me that the code protect scheme for these chips seems to provide
a hinderence to one of it's newest features.

My idea of code protect is to secure your intellectual property from
those who wish to 'use' it themselves.

In this chip, though, they have provided a mechanism by which you can
program it's own ROM from within your code. It would be a very simple
task to write an RS232 routine and use the USART to receive the data via
a PC or whatever to program itself with a resident boot loader.

BUT, according to the data sheet, you can't do this on a code protected
part. You can only use this feature on unprotected ROM. It would seem to
me that Microchip would have an extremely flexible part if you could
program 'under' the code protection, but you could not read this code
afterwards. After all, isn't that what it is all about.

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1999\05\25@194921 by Ed Edmondson

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Tony,

Did you get the free seminar PCB and docs to go with the 87X chip?

They gave us the bare boards and docs but NO 87X chips.  Told us we would get
them later.  Still waiting on them! :-(

Dr. Ed

1999\05\25@203133 by Tony Nixon

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Ed Edmondson wrote:
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> Tony,
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> Did you get the free seminar PCB and docs to go with the 87X chip?
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> They gave us the bare boards and docs but NO 87X chips.  Told us we would get
> them later.  Still waiting on them! :-(
>
> Dr. Ed

No, we only got the free chip. We saw how it can be used with MPLAB in
debugger mode which was quite interesting, but no PCB's etc.

I guess we should remember that the chip only has limited write/erase
cycles (1000??), so they probably would not be much good for an
application that needs to constantly reprogram itself. That even limits
the usabillity of the device when using it as a debugger, because you
need to reprogram the part each time you are making changes to your
code. As the rep put it, 'It's good for Microchip' :-)

I tried to read the device last night, but it gave all 0's. I hope it's
not a dud.

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1999\05\26@005101 by paulb

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Tony Nixon wrote:

> I attended the Microchip seminar yesterday.  Overall, it was quite a
> good day. Even got a 16F877 to play with.

 It was a bit far for me.  When are they having one in Sydney?

 If you could add code to a protected chip, you could write in a "read"
routine to send it all back *out* again via the UART.  I think that's
the reason.
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1999\05\26@020101 by Tony Nixon

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"Paul B. Webster VK2BZC" wrote:
>   If you could add code to a protected chip, you could write in a "read"
> routine to send it all back *out* again via the UART.  I think that's
> the reason.

I'm not sure how that could be achieved when the ROM is being modified
by resident protected code inside the chip itself. This code would be
written underneath the 'umbrella' of the code protection, but you cannot
access this code or write to ROM from the outside world without having
the code protection off or erasing the chip.

It's a bit like a gate with a padlock on it. You can't get in or out
without a key, (or breaking down the gate). The key in this case is
knowing how the boot loader functions.

The other scenario is generating 'smart' code that can alter itself
according the the conditions that it is subject to. You cannot do this
with a code protected chip either and the gateway doesn't exist.

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