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'Scenix SX ? what is it...?'
1998\01\28@105843 by wft

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Please update me ( I have been away from the discussion for months) on
what a Scenix SX is and where I can find data on it.

Thanks

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1998\01\28@203607 by Eric Smith

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> Please update me ( I have been away from the discussion for months) on
> what a Scenix SX is and where I can find data on it.

Don't worry about it, you can't get one.  :-)

Data is available on:
    http://www.scenix.com/
and
    http://www.parallaxinc.com/

Cheers,
Eric

1998\01\28@235700 by tjaart

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> Please update me ( I have been away from the discussion for months) on
> what a Scenix SX is and where I can find data on it.

It's a reprogrammable chip that has more or less the same instruction
set as the PIC16C5X chips. The difference is that it can run about
20 times faster.

The reasoning for making these parts is that, instead of spending
big bucks developing hardware goodies that may prove faulty in the
field, they give you super computing speed so you can write it in
software. You can test your software fully and *know* it works.
New applications only involve putting these libraries together.

Other applications include programmable logic simulation. Because
these beauties are so fast, you can simulate having a micro and a
PLA in the same package.

There is plenty of skepticism around as to whether these parts
are vapourware or not. My development kit is on its way, so I
can tell you they are real.

But watch the plot thicken : Microchip sued Scenix for big bucks
for patent infringements last year. Since Mchip have withdrawn all
but two of the suits.

I can predict that Microchip will sue Scenix again and again to
keep their hands out of the mid-end micro cookie jar.

Speaking of Mchip litigation; I notice that Mchip 'settled' some
dispute over the Keeloq technology with Rohm and Excel. Does
anybody know who paid who and what it was about?

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1998\01\29@004405 by Andrew Warren

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Tjaart van der Walt <tjaartspamspam_OUTwasp.co.za> wrote:

> There is plenty of skepticism around as to whether these [Scenix
> SX] parts are vapourware or not. My development kit is on its way,
> so I can tell you they are real.

   Tjaart:

   Until you receive it, all you can really tell us with any
   certainty is, "My development kit is on its way, so my
   development kit is on its way."

> Speaking of Mchip litigation; I notice that Mchip 'settled' some
> dispute over the Keeloq technology with Rohm and Excel. Does anybody
> know who paid who and what it was about?

   The exact settlement terms weren't disclosed, but Exel (a
   privately-held subsidiary of Rohm) has "surrendered to Microchip
   any license rights that it might have had in the KEELOQ
   technology".

   In case you don't remember, both Microchip and Exel had licenses
   to manufacture silicon that implemented the Keeloq technology
   developed by Nanoteq... And Exel was first to market, in late
   1995.

   Microchip bought Nanoteq shortly thereafter, and almost
   immediately sued Exel (in mid-March 1996) for trademark and
   copyright infringement and misappropriation of trade secrets.
   Microchip also sought a preliminary injunction against Exel, but
   withdrew it after Exel stopped using the "Keeloq" trademark and
   began using "SureLok" instead.

   In the two years since the suit was filed, Microchip's Keeloq
   sales volume has soared while Exel has been more-or-less sucking
   wind.  Personally, I don't think Exel lost much by settling the
   suit, and I don't think it'll have much effect on Microchip,
   either.

   -Andy

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1998\01\29@010421 by tjaart

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Andrew Warren wrote:
>     Until you receive it, all you can really tell us with any
>     certainty is, "My development kit is on its way, so my
>     development kit is on its way."
True.

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Did Mchip pay Exel to give up the license, or did they simply force
them?

>
>     Microchip bought Nanoteq shortly thereafter, and almost
Whoa! Nanoteq wasn't bought by Microchip! The last time I looked, it was
still right here in South Africa. I suppose Mchip bought the rights?

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I read that they (Exel) said they they were getting out of that line
anyway (yeah, sure).

Thanks for the info.

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1998\01\29@040541 by Andrew Warren

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Tjaart van der Walt <RemoveMEtjaartTakeThisOuTspamwasp.co.za> wrote:

> > The exact settlement terms weren't disclosed....
>
> Did Mchip pay Exel to give up the license, or did they simply force
> them?

   The exact settlement terms weren't disclosed.

> > Microchip bought Nanoteq shortly thereafter....
>
> Whoa! Nanoteq wasn't bought by Microchip! The last time I looked, it
> was still right here in South Africa. I suppose Mchip bought the
> rights?

   Yes.  Sorry, Tjaart... I meant to say, "Microchip bought Keeloq".

   Nanoteq is owned by Persetel Holdings, not Microchip.

   -Andy

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