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'PIC from 9V battery'
1998\10\30@093757
by
scott.list
Greetings:
I bet this has been covered numerous times before, please excuse the
repititious question if so:
I have a small project where I'd like to incorporate a 16F84 but I need
to power it via a 9v battery. I'd like to keep the project as
small/light as possible and would like advise on the best way to power
the PIC.
Can someone recommend a specific V-reg (other than the 7805 I've been
using) or perhaps something smaller I can accomplish this with? Could I
do it with some sort of zener arrangement? Obviously I'm no electroics
wiz :-( .
The PIC will only be monitoring one High/Low input and will be switching
one 2N2222 transistor as output. (I know the '84 is overkill, but it's
what I know how to use).
Thanks in advance for any help.
Scott
1998\10\30@110513
by
Peter L. Peres
On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Scott Horton wrote:
> The PIC will only be monitoring one High/Low input and will be switching
> one 2N2222 transistor as output. (I know the '84 is overkill, but it's
> what I know how to use).
I suppose that a 4V2 0.3Watt zener in series with the power supply will
get you there. If the zener is not a good quality one you will also need a
resistor of about 10 kOhms between Vdd and Gnd of the PIC to drain the
leakage.
Peter
1998\10\30@170607
by
Lynx {Glenn Jones}
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Use a 78L05, only the size of a TO-92 package, so quite small.
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On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Scott Horton wrote:
{Quote hidden}> Greetings:
>
> I bet this has been covered numerous times before, please excuse the
> repititious question if so:
>
> I have a small project where I'd like to incorporate a 16F84 but I need
> to power it via a 9v battery. I'd like to keep the project as
> small/light as possible and would like advise on the best way to power
> the PIC.
>
> Can someone recommend a specific V-reg (other than the 7805 I've been
> using) or perhaps something smaller I can accomplish this with? Could I
> do it with some sort of zener arrangement? Obviously I'm no electroics
> wiz :-( .
>
> The PIC will only be monitoring one High/Low input and will be switching
> one 2N2222 transistor as output. (I know the '84 is overkill, but it's
> what I know how to use).
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Scott
>
1998\10\30@174934
by
Craig Lee
Or an SOIC. As wide and as high as head of a thumbtack.
Craig
>Use a 78L05, only the size of a TO-92 package, so quite small.
1998\10\30@182243
by
Bob Blick
>
> >Use a 78L05, only the size of a TO-92 package, so quite small.
>
It sounds to me like there must be a lot of Eveready or Duracell
stockholders on this list. A 9v battery will be dead in a couple of days
just powering a 78anything05 regulator.
How about the LM2936-5.0 ? It draws less than the PIC it will power. Or
anything in the TK112 or TK114 line from Toko.
Cheers,
Bob
1998\10\30@185233
by
William Chops Westfield
Switching regulator providers are quick to point out that the current
drain of a simple linear regulator used to provide 5V from a 9V battery
is quite high (compared to typical PIC circuits.) You can increase your
battery life significantly by going to some sort of swicthing regulator
design (unfortunately increasing your costs and complexity at the same time.)
You can increase it even more by replacing the 9V battery with 2AA cells and
converting to a "boost" switcher configuration - apparently 2AA cells has
considerably more raw power than a 9V battery. (also, for small current
drain, you can go to a capacitor-only based voltage converter...)
BillW
'PIC from 9V battery'
1998\11\02@121246
by
John Payson
|
|Switching regulator providers are quick to point out that the current
|drain of a simple linear regulator used to provide 5V from a 9V battery
|is quite high (compared to typical PIC circuits.) You can increase your
|battery life significantly by going to some sort of swicthing regulator
|design (unfortunately increasing your costs and complexity at the same time.)
|You can increase it even more by replacing the 9V battery with 2AA cells and
|converting to a "boost" switcher configuration - apparently 2AA cells has
|considerably more raw power than a 9V battery. (also, for small current
|drain, you can go to a capacitor-only based voltage converter...)
Another advantage of the two AA's driving a switcher is that a
boost switcher can operate in "pass-through" mode with zero
quiescent current draw. If your device only needs the full 5v
when it's really "operating", being able to throttle down to
raw battery may help considerably with current consumption.
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1998\11\02@131722
by
Sean Breheny
1998\11\02@133419
by
goflo
|
"Simplified Design of Micropower & Battery Circuits",
by John D. Lenk, contains useful discussion and examples...
Jack
John Payson wrote:
{Quote hidden}>
> |Switching regulator providers are quick to point out that the current
> |drain of a simple linear regulator used to provide 5V from a 9V battery
> |is quite high (compared to typical PIC circuits.) You can increase your
> |battery life significantly by going to some sort of swicthing regulator
> |design (unfortunately increasing your costs and complexity at the same time.)
> |You can increase it even more by replacing the 9V battery with 2AA cells and
> |converting to a "boost" switcher configuration - apparently 2AA cells has
> |considerably more raw power than a 9V battery. (also, for small current
> |drain, you can go to a capacitor-only based voltage converter...)
>
> Another advantage of the two AA's driving a switcher is that a
> boost switcher can operate in "pass-through" mode with zero
> quiescent current draw. If your device only needs the full 5v
> when it's really "operating", being able to throttle down to
> raw battery may help considerably with current consumption.
1998\11\02@142555
by
Dwayne Reid
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(403) 489-3199 voice (403) 487-6397 fax
1998\11\03@023136
by
schmaeche
|
Dear Scott Horton,
just have a look at the new High Voltage PICmicro PIC16HV540. It
includes a voltage regulator and should work from 3.5V ... 15V.
Hope this helps!
Best regards / Saludos
Marc Schmaeche
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{Quote hidden}> Greetings:
>
> I bet this has been covered numerous times before, please excuse the
> repititious question if so:
>
> I have a small project where I'd like to incorporate a 16F84 but I need
> to power it via a 9v battery. I'd like to keep the project as
> small/light as possible and would like advise on the best way to power
> the PIC.
>
> Can someone recommend a specific V-reg (other than the 7805 I've been
> using) or perhaps something smaller I can accomplish this with? Could I
> do it with some sort of zener arrangement? Obviously I'm no electroics
> wiz :-( .
>
> The PIC will only be monitoring one High/Low input and will be switching
> one 2N2222 transistor as output. (I know the '84 is overkill, but it's
> what I know how to use).
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
> Scott
1998\11\05@070558
by
schmaeche
|
Dear Scott,
>
> Marc:
>
> I couldnt' find any info on Microchips website about that chip. Do you know
> what family it's in? Do you have a .pdf datasheet you could send? I didn't
> see it in Digikey's latest catalog, either.
>
> Thanks,
> Scott
I just saw a note on an info sheet of Metronik (a German distributor)
about the PIC16HV540.
Here some more details:
- Software- & pinkompatible to PIC16C54, but 4 stack-levels
- EPROM 512*12Bit, RAM 25 Bytes
- 8 High Voltage IO Pins on Port B, 4 Low Voltage Pins
- includes a voltage regulator (should work from 3.5V ... 15V)
- Wake-up from Sleep through Sleep-Timer or Change on Pin
Maybe anybody else knows more about it ...
Best regards / Saludos
Marc Schmaeche
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1998\11\05@102542
by
Matt Bonner
|
M.Schmaeche wrote:
{Quote hidden}>
> Dear Scott,
> >
> > Marc:
> >
> > I couldnt' find any info on Microchips website about that chip. Do you know
> > what family it's in? Do you have a .pdf datasheet you could send? I didn't
> > see it in Digikey's latest catalog, either.
>
> I just saw a note on an info sheet of Metronik (a German distributor)
> about the PIC16HV540.
>
> Here some more details:
> - Software- & pinkompatible to PIC16C54, but 4 stack-levels
> - EPROM 512*12Bit, RAM 25 Bytes
> - 8 High Voltage IO Pins on Port B, 4 Low Voltage Pins
> - includes a voltage regulator (should work from 3.5V ... 15V)
> - Wake-up from Sleep through Sleep-Timer or Change on Pin
>
> Maybe anybody else knows more about it ...
>
I also couldn't find anything on MChip's web site (even though my
samples were on the way). My MChip distributor brought the data sheet
along with the 2 samples.
The datasheet is 36 pages long, so I can't scan/email it in its
entirety, but if anyone has any specific questions.....
--Matt
1998\11\20@081701
by
Matt Bonner
|
M.Schmaeche wrote:
{Quote hidden}>
> Dear Scott,
> >
> > Marc:
> >
> > I couldnt' find any info on Microchips website about that chip. Do you know
> > what family it's in? Do you have a .pdf datasheet you could send? I didn't
> > see it in Digikey's latest catalog, either.
>
> I just saw a note on an info sheet of Metronik (a German distributor)
> about the PIC16HV540.
>
> Here some more details:
> - Software- & pinkompatible to PIC16C54, but 4 stack-levels
> - EPROM 512*12Bit, RAM 25 Bytes
> - 8 High Voltage IO Pins on Port B, 4 Low Voltage Pins
> - includes a voltage regulator (should work from 3.5V ... 15V)
> - Wake-up from Sleep through Sleep-Timer or Change on Pin
>
> Maybe anybody else knows more about it ...
>
I also couldn't find anything on MChip's web site (even though my
samples were on the way). My MChip distributor brought the data sheet
along with the 2 samples.
The datasheet is 36 pages long, so I can't scan/email it in its
entirety, but if anyone has any specific questions.....
--Matt
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