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'MetaURL page for PICList updated'
1998\10\14@161913 by jcline

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Hi all,

I've updated the MetaURL page for PICList.  This page is
generated by software that grabs http: links from the list and
verifies that they're working.  So if you need a URL that has
been posted to the list it should be on this page!  (There are
1826 supposedly working URLs listed as of last week's update,
which took about 5 hours to run.)


       http://www.ee.calpoly.edu/~jcline/pic-links.htm


Jonathan
spam_OUTjclineTakeThisOuTspamee.calpoly.edu

1998\10\15@105807 by Bob Shaver

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On Wednesday, October 14, 1998 4:07 PM, Jonathan
[SMTP:.....jclineKILLspamspam@spam@EE.CALPOLY.EDU] wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've updated the MetaURL page for PICList.  This page is
> generated by software that grabs http: links from the list and
> verifies that they're working.  So if you need a URL that has
> been posted to the list it should be on this page!  (There are
> 1826 supposedly working URLs listed as of last week's update,
> which took about 5 hours to run.)
>
>
>         http://www.ee.calpoly.edu/~jcline/pic-links.htm

Thanks for providing this page!  I would like to suggest a different color
scheme.  The dark green on black gackground is pretty unreadable (that is
how it appears on my IE 3 screen).  How about a lighter background of
brighter text.

Bob.

1998\10\19@015813 by James Cameron

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Jonathan wrote:
> I've updated the MetaURL page for PICList.

Hmm.

Well, I personally dislike it, because it has published on another site
pointers to my site, causing web searching robots to come a hunting.  I
did not desire this.

My response will be to pull my site down, and avoid posting URL's on the
PIClist but rather say "please write to me if you want to see it."

I'm afraid I can't easily claim copyright on a URL.  ;-)  It was sort of
assumed that someone, somewhere, would quote my URL eventually.


Obligatory PIC query ... how do you declare file register data space in
gpasm or mpasm?  I've been using a painful series of EQU's which I have
to update if I want to change the number of size of elements.  For
example;

data1   equ     0x0f
data2   equ     0x10
data3   equ     0x12

On my Z80 assembler, I could

       org     0x0f
data1   defs    1
data2   defs    2
data3   defs    1

--
James Cameron                                    (cameronspamKILLspamstl.dec.com)
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

1998\10\19@021306 by g.daniel.invent.design

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Hi James
There's an easy solution, I've made some cuts from a working program,
should give you the general idea:

James Cameron wrote:
>
> Obligatory PIC query ... how do you declare file register data space in
> gpasm or mpasm?
> James Cameron                                    (.....cameronKILLspamspam.....stl.dec.com)
> Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

-----------------------------------------------------------------
; : check rambase matches processor !
   CBLOCK  H'0C'

       INT_W,INT_STATUS,INT_FSR

       TRX_PTR,XBITPOS
<cut>
       DIGIT_COUNT

       ASCII

   ENDC


; MY GENERAL PURPOSE TASK BITS >>>>>>>>..TASK_FLAGS

TDMODE          EQU     7

#DEFINE TD_MODE         TASK_FLAGS,TDMODE

#DEFINE _HOMERED    PORTB,3     ; ACTIVE HIGH = LED ON
#DEFINE _IRLED      PORTB,6     ; PULL LOW UNLESS SAVING POWER.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
regards, Graham Daniel.

1998\10\19@021716 by Michael Hagberg

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here is a snipit from some of my code on how i define variable space and
port names.

#define high_led        PORTB,3
#define low_led         PORTB,2

 org     010h
delay1          res     1       ; delay counter
delay2          res     1
delay5min       res     1       ; sleep counter for 5 minutes
bit_variables   res     1
#define         water_on_high   bit_variables,0
#define         water_on_low    bit_variables,1
#define         played_song     bit_variables,2


michael

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>Obligatory PIC query ... how do you declare file register data space in
>gpasm or mpasm?  I've been using a painful series of EQU's which I have
>to update if I want to change the number of size of elements.  For
>example;
>
>data1   equ     0x0f
>data2   equ     0x10
>data3   equ     0x12
>

1998\10\19@024751 by jcline

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>
> Jonathan wrote:
> > I've updated the MetaURL page for PICList.
>
> Hmm.
>
> Well, I personally dislike it, because it has published on another site
> pointers to my site, causing web searching robots to come a hunting.  I
> did not desire this.

This is the first I've had someone complain, and I understand
your concern.  (However-- almost all robots do obey the
'nofollow' metatag in a web page, so perhaps I should add that
to prevent the "robot field-day".)  But I have to ask-- why would
you not want your page listed (I can't say I know what's on it
myself)?

> My response will be to pull my site down, and avoid posting URL's on the
> PIClist but rather say "please write to me if you want to see it."

I can 'blacklist' a URL at any time.  I think that is a much more
reasonable solution than taking down your site.  Just let me know
the URL and it will be removed from the page "forever".

> I'm afraid I can't easily claim copyright on a URL.  ;-)  It was sort of
> assumed that someone, somewhere, would quote my URL eventually.

This is very true.  I have had pages (not just at my home site)
which have generated significant traffic just from mentioning the
URL in e-mail once.  (Then I gave up and put it in a search
engine.)



Jonathan
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1998\10\19@202050 by James Cameron

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Oh, Jonathan, keep doing it.  It's good.  I'm just a vocal person ...
quite willing to complain at a moments notice.  ;-)

Jonathan wrote:
> This is the first I've had someone complain, and I understand
> your concern.  But I have to ask-- why would you not want your page
> listed?

Because I intended that the server remain up for only a couple of weeks
in order to provide the pages to the PIClist community only ... it's a
process running in a UNIX shell, and has a very unusual URL.

Recording it semi-permanently on another page and hence in the robot
databases places an informal obligation on me to continue to provide the
service.  It creates disappointment for people who turn up later.  It
takes the URL out of the context that said it was "temporary."

And for those who viewed my toy train project, I've finished the final
burn of the PIC 12C509 and the code is up on the web site, to laugh at
(by the experts) or to puzzle through (by the newbies like me.)

http://ftp.digital.com.au:6153/tad/98-11245/

--
James Cameron                                    (@spam@cameronKILLspamspamstl.dec.com)
Digital Equipment Corporation (Australia) Pty. Ltd. A.C.N. 000 446 800

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