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'List Objectives - What are they?'
1998\01\20@172601 by Bill (WL) Boulton

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To All,

I think I may have got the wrong idea about the thrust of this group. I had
the idea that group members would enjoy the challenge of "Extracting the
most from the least", exploiting the potential of readily available and
inexpensive technology by application of grey matter before resorting to
the credit card?

If this is "Doing things the hard way", I'm in favour of it. God gave me a
brain so I figure I owe it to Him to use it to the best of my ability. It
also consumes a lot of my energy intake and I have to carry it around, so
it can damm well earn its keep.

Those who simply purchase solutions, mostly, have not defined or solved the
problem and probably can't in any case. Instead, they rely on convincing
their client that "If all this cutting edge technology doesn't work, then
it must be his/her fault" (ie, the Bullshit Baffles Brains philosophy). For
those of us not blessed with public service budgets or clients with more
money than sense, the only solution is to solve the problem using God given
assets and to my knowledge, "God don't give credit". Personally, I get off
on achieving my goals the "hard" way.

It's nice to play with the latest high end solutions on offer, especially
at someone else's expense. It seems wasteful to me, if the potential of the
existing technology has not been understood, realised and exploited. It's
almost like "Out-sourcing reasoning and intelligence" in favour of
"Fantastic Plastic".

Of all the mail resulting from my original on opto devices, only ONE had a
constructive comment to offer. To that person and all the others who have
offered constructive comments to my queries, I send a real big "Thank You".
Now I'll go to find some more speed from those opto sensors using what God
put between my ears and leave the non-contributory band width wasters to
play with what He put between their legs.

Bye all,
Bill

PS. Members might like to try this approach. I know most do already.

"IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE, SHUT-UP!"

1998\01\20@175036 by Najemy, Daniel

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I see you're really into making friends today.

Daniel Najemy - Numaliine Power Systems

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1998\01\20@203918 by Charles Laforge

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Easy there Bill!

Some people enjoy "Extracting the most from the least" and some
certainly enjoy "resorting to the credit card" and people like you, I
guess, enjoy doing things the hard way.  I think your being a little too
quick in pointing fingers and generalizing people.  For example, I
personally prefer to purchase an UCN5804 instead of using a bunch of
transistors and other components.  The advantages to me are: reliability
and simplicity with the most important being "time is money".  If I want
to study stepper drivers then of course I will study the subject, put
some circuits together, design my own.... but if I don't have to I
won't!  Someone already did it for me and they offer the solution in a
small plastic package.

However, you're right in saying that I'm not using whats in between my
ears...  if I did I would have kept my mouth shut!

Have a nice day!

Charles



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1998\01\20@215519 by DREITEK

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In a message dated 98-01-20 17:39:15 EST, you write:

<<
Bye all,
Bill

PS. Members might like to try this approach. I know most do already.

"IF YOU CAN'T SAY SOMETHING CONSTRUCTIVE, SHUT-UP!"

 >>

Bill ....words to live by......when will you be starting to do so??

Dave

1998\01\20@223643 by Bob Blick

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At 05:26 PM 1/20/98 -0500, you wrote:
>I think I may have got the wrong idea about the thrust of this group. I had
>the idea that group members would enjoy the challenge of "Extracting the
>most from the least", exploiting the potential of readily available and
>inexpensive technology by application of grey matter before resorting to
>the credit card?

Hi Bill,

There's a good cross-section of the general population here on the list.
That suggests that the I.Q. averages 100. If you got one thoughtful
response from someone, that's great. The signal-to-noise ratio will never
be good. Especially on anything electronic. It's up to you to filter the
responses.

On the other hand, this list is excellent on software issues, and I enjoy
reading what I have time for. There's so much traffic, I don't even have
time to delete messages!

If you want to see a list with more electronic illiterates spouting their
version of wisdom, check out the Parallax "Stamp" list. It will make you
feel better about this one.

Cheerful regards,

Bob

http://www.bobblick.com/

1998\01\21@105048 by Wayne Foletta

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Bill:

I have observed over the years that the quality of responses to
questions posted in newsgroups is a direct function of the quality of
the question (much more so than in person-to-person voice contacts). I
am not saying your question was not well stated on the first post - but
if you would like to take the time to define it in more detail I will
(and sure others will) try again to help you.

- Wayne Foletta
BMI - Saratoga, CA

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       ...Of all the mail resulting from my original on opto devices,
only ONE had a
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1998\01\22@072557 by paulb

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Bob Blick wrote:

> There's a good cross-section of the general population here on the
> list.  That suggests that the I.Q. averages 100.

 Oh come on now!  I find that *rather* hard to accept.  If you'd said
112 with a spread of ±15, I might agree.  Even those who have evident
trouble with English (second language or otherwise) are hardly dumb.

 How many list recipients watch soap operas?

> If you want to see a list with more electronic illiterates spouting
> their version of wisdom, check out the Parallax "Stamp" list. It will
> make you feel better about this one.

 My curiousity would lead me to go find it and subscribe, if it weren't
for the huge slice of my time this list (plus MC58HC11 and so on)
already devours!

 Cheers,
       Paul B.

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