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1997\01\11@110532 by Opportunity

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MARKETING WITH DIRECT EMAIL / BULK EMAIL SERVICES

I operate a custom email service. From my experience, your typical
bulk email service just collects email addresses from any source they
can rely on shear volume emailing to produce the desired results - the
"shotgun" approach. I have found that by targeting emails to groups
that would likely be specifically interested in your product, the
response rate is much better than when using the "shotgun" approach
AND you don't tend to annoy as many people (which is nice for both
sides). By targeting emails, I mean that I collect the addresses
myself from on-line areas (forums, newsgroups, etc.) so that I mail to
people that are likely to be interested in my products based on their
on-line participation.

FLOODGATE is the renegade technology that helps me do this.

This is the same software that all bulk emailing services use!

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Floodgate Bulk Email Loader for
Windows Version 5.02 now Supports 17 (really more with the free form
filter) File Formats
----------------------------------------------------------------------


SEND OUT 20,000+ MARKETING LETTERS EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Or...every few days. In fact, when I send out just a few thousand
marketing letters each day, it doesn't take long before I'm completely
swamped with email inquiries and phone calls. This is very easy to do.
And each one of these bulk mailings costs me nothing. I can teach you
how to do this and provide you with the tools you'll need.

If you've got a good marketing letter, I'll show you how to open the
floodgates. You'll be deluged with inquiries, leads, and real sales,
using nothing but email alone.

Writing a good marketing letter is not easy. I often have to rewrite
my marketing letters a half dozen times before I get the results I'm
looking for. But once you have a good letter, as you probably know,
you can use the same letter over and over again, predictably and
consistently, closing sales, week after week, month after month.

It takes me about one hour to send my marketing letter to 20,000 fresh
email addresses. I can do this, thanks to a Windows program I use.
It's called Floodgate. It's a bulk email loader. If you're interested
in electronic marketing, you should know about this program.

THE PROGRAM: FLOODGATE FOR WINDOWS

The Floodgate Bulk Email Loader imports simple text files that anyone
can download from CompuServe, Prodigy, Delphi Genie, or the Internet.
These text files contain classified ads, forum messages, or data from
the member directory. Each of these files is filled with email
addresses.

Floodgate is designed to read these files and strip out the email
addresses. It then sorts the addresses, removes any duplicates, and
formats them into an output file, with 10, 20 or 30 addresses per
line. This is all done in one simple step. Just point and click.

You'll need either a Windows based Internet account or an America
On-line account to send out your marketing letters. Neither AOL nor
the Internet charges to send email. Send your letter to 1,000 people
or 10,000 people -- the cost is always the same. NOTHING!

NEW! PREPARE A MAILING OF 50,000+ IN LESS THAN A 1/2 HOUR

If you open an Internet account, you can send each letter to 2,000+
people. The new Floodgate now directly writes distribution lists. Some
people are always collecting new addresses, but if you publish a
newsletter or adsheet, you'll be using the same addresses over and
over again. That's real power! When using addresses you've previously
collected, you can press a few buttons and prepare a mailing of
50,000+ in less than a half hour.

(To get a list of all the Internet access providers in your local
calling area goto: http://thelist.com and click on your area code.)

The Floodgate Users Guide will teach you, step by step, how to
download the right files, how to strip the addresses, and finally, how
to cut and paste the formatted addresses into your marketing letter.
Or, if you have an Internet account, how to create distribution lists.
One you've done this a few times you won't even have to think. It's
that simple!

FOR THE BRAVE & DARING: PUSHING TECHNOLOGY TO ITS LIMITS

As you may know, the practice of sending unsolicited email is usually
frowned upon, and most service providers have rules against it. But,
like jay-walking, there is little enforcement. It's not illegal. If
someone tells you that it is, ask them to provide the citation (and
don't let them give you some nonsense about faxes - that's not email).
They can't do it because it's not there. Sometimes, when a lot of
people complain, I get a warning letter. And that's about it.

About 1 in 200 will write back and tell me, "take me off the list",
which I can do, thanks to Floodgates Remove List feature. Many people
reply back thanking me for sending them my informative letter. That's
always nice. Most people though, just reply and say, "send me more
info." In this way, it usually takes me two or three letters to close
a sale.

The Floodgate Users Guide will provide you with proven formats for
writing a successful marketing letter. You'll test and rewrite, test
and rewrite. Then, once you've got it, just push a few buttons, and
open the floodgates!!!

THE FLOODGATE BULK EMAIL LOADER CURRENTLY SUPPORTS 15+ FILE FORMATS

1. CompuServe Classifieds: Send your marketing letter to everyone who
is running a classified ad. I'll teach you how to download all the
classifieds from any single ad category. This is one of the most
responsive list of buyers. They check their email every day and
they're already in business.

2. America On-line Classifieds: Download 1,000 addresses in 15
minutes. These are excellent lists for business to business sales.

3. CompuServe Forums: You can join a forum and download hundreds of
forum messages in a matter of minutes.

4. America On-line Forums: Choose from dozens of forums. All good
targeted lists.

5. Prodigy Forums: Prodigy allows you to easily export any group of
forum messages. More targeted lists.

6. Internet Newsgroups: These are all targeted lists. You'll be able
to send your marketing letter to everyone who posts a message in any
newsgroup. Easily collect 1,000's of addresses per      hour.

7. America On-line Member Directory: Most member directories only
allow you to search by city and state. With AOL, you can search by
business type, hobbies, computer type, etc. This is the gem of all
member directories. Build huge targeted lists.

8. CompuServe Member Directory: This is a major resource. If you're
willing to target your mailing to a single city, you can collect about
1,000 email addresses an hour.

9. Delphi Member Directory: The Delphi member directory allows you to
search for people based on key words. These are good targeted mailing
lists. A single search can easily generate 5,000 addresses.

10. Genie Member Directory: Similar to the CompuServe member
directory, only you can download names much quicker. You can easily
pull hundreds of thousands of addresses out of each of these member
directories.

11. CompuServe File Cabinet: If you run classified ads, and save the
responses in the CIM file cabinet, you'll be able to easily reuse
these addresses. You can send your marketing letter to everyone in any
single folder. Build master lists and clean UP your hard drive.

12. Free Form: If you have a text file with email addresses that
floodgate does not support, chances are the Free Form filter will be
just what you need. Just enter a key word to search for.

13. CompuServe Form Profiles (Forum Membership Directories): Easy to
build targeted lists here. Each search can easily bring you 500+
addresses.

14. Genie Profiles: If you're building targeted lists, you'll get a
lot of addresses very quickly from Genie.

15. Plain Addresses: Read Floodgate Master Files back into Floodgate
to merge files and do selective mailings. Also useful for the
management of email address lists that you might purchase.

Floodgate also has filters to allow you to include or exclude any
groups of addresses in your final distribution lists. For example, you
could include only email addresses that ended in .com or exclude all
with .gov. You could exclude all noc, root, and other addresses that
almost guarantee a negative response. These filters are fully
configurable and can be used together.

BUILD REUSABLE MASTER FILES

Floodgate maintains Master Files for each of your marketing letters.
If you download from the same place on a regular basis, you only want
to send your letter to the new people. Floodgate will compare the new
addresses with those in the Master File, and prepare a mailing list of
only new people. The new addresses are, of course, then added to the
Master File. With each new mailing your Master File grows and grows.

You may create as many Master Lists as you need. When you start a new
marketing campaign, you'll want to send your new letter to everyone on
your Master List. If you write a newsletter, each time you send your
newsletter, you'll send it to everyone on a Master List.

THE REMOVE LIST

Very often, people will reply and tell you to take them off your
mailing list. Place these addresses in the REMOVE.MST file and they
will never receive another letter from you again. In this way, you
will be operating your business with the most professionalism
possible.

DON'T BE FOOLED

We have some new competitors that have tried to copy Floodgate. The
following list describes why Floodgate is BETTER.......

**Floodgate is a mature, bug free product. Not an initial release.
**Floodgate comes with over 100 pages of step by step documentation.
**Floodgate is the only one offering a money back guarantee.
**Floodgate has more testimonials. **Filter for filter, Floodgate
offers more capabilities, way more. **Floodgate does everything all
the others *combined* claim. **Floodgate is by far the easiest to use.
**Ther is NO *cutting and pasting* with Floodgate. **We have by far,
the best technical support.

SOME QUICK MATH

Floodgate can pay for itself in a few days. It can also cut your
advertising costs down to almost nothing. Think of what the
competition will do when they get their Floodgate program. Don't be
left in the dust - there are 75 million people out there, just a few
keystrokes away. Let's do the math:

- Email 50,000 sales letters (takes about 1-2 hours)
- Let's say your product will bring you $5 profit per sale.
- Let's also say you only get a 1% response (occasionally higher).

* That's 500 orders x $5 = $2,500 profit !! Now imagine what 500,000
letters would do for your business !!

WHAT CAN I MARKET ON-LINE?

You can market anything on-line using direct email, that can be
marketed using conventional postal direct mail marketing. The
possibilities are practically endless. If it sells off-line, you can
sell it on-line.

EASY TO INSTALL AND EASY TO LEARN

The Floodgate Email Loader requires Windows. The docs tell you where
to go, what to do, and how to do it. All you need are basic computer
skills that can be learned with a little practice or help from
computer savvy friends.

Floodgate has previously sold for as much as $2,499! The complete
package is now available for just $499.95, postpaid. If you order
within 72 hours, it can be your for only $349.95!! (Must be verified
on out autoresponder log, by received email time stamp, fax time
stamp, or voice message time stamp). These orders will also receive
lifetime technical support and FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING (once your
check has cleared the bank).

Some say Floodgate is expensive. Compared to direct mail, where you
pay for mailing lists, printing and postage, Floodgate is a bargain.
For the cost of one traditional mailing, you'll own a Floodgate
license and never again pay for lists, printing or postage. Those who
know direct mail will agree, "Floodgate is the best advertising value
on the Internet today!"

MONEY BACK GUARANTEE: Try the Floodgate Bulk Email Loader for 10 days.
Do a test mailing. If you're not delighted, return the package for a
full refund.

All Floodgate users receive unlimited technical and business support
for 30 days, (and if you don't take up a lot of my time, for a lot
longer.) To order the FLOODGATE Bulk Email Loader, send your check or
money order for $349.95 within 72 hours from receiving this email
letter to:

Dave Mustachi
WebAware
P.O. Box 772261
Coral Springs, FL 33077
954-341-2924

You can receive a functional demo version of Floodgate by
simply replying back to us with the word "Floodgate" in the
subject portion of your email message.

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

386 or larger
Windows 3.1+ with at least 4 meg ram or Windows 95 with 8 meg ram
Extra 5 MB hard drive space

Floodgate can be run on a fast Mac with 24 MB RAM and SoftWindows.

NOTES FROM FLOODGATE USERS

"It is everything you said it was. Within one week of my first
mailing, I received a record number of orders. All you need to print
money is a decent sales letter. Thanks." Randy albertson, Wolverine
Capital.

"After using Floodgate and your utility program all day today, let me
say these are as two of the finest programs I have ever bought in my
52 years! Your support has been superb. Thank You!" Vernon Hale, Prime
Data Systems

"My first day and I just used Floodgate and Pegasus to send 1,469
sales letters. So far I've got about 25 positive responses. It works
GREAT!!! Thanks." Donald Prior

"Floodgate is awesome!. I recently started a new business on-line. I
stripped the addresses of the AOL & CIS classifieds. I sent out 3,497
email letters and got over 400 people to join my company in 5 days!
Needless to say, it pays for itself." David Sheeham, OMPD

"I was able to use Floodgate to extract the names from the Internet
news groups. It works perfectly. Needless to say, I am very excited
about the use of this new technology." Mark Eberra, Inside Connections

"This is a great piece of software and an invaluable marketing tool."
Joe Kuhn, The Millennium Group

"I just thought you'd like to know that this program is fantastic.
After loading it on my system, I wanted to test it out. In my first
hour of using this, I collected 6,092 email addresses!" Richard Kahn,
LD Communications

"I just love the Floodgate program. It saves me hours and hours of
time. This is the beginning of a wonderful FUN time marketing on-line.
Thank you so much for writing this program." Beth O'Neill, Eudora, KS

"Your software is brilliant, and from the technical support I've
received, I can see you have a genuine love and respect of
people...Floodgate is a divine package. Wish I had found it sooner."
Tom Sanders, Peoria, IL

"I really like the way the Floodgate software package works. It is
very easy to use, and really does the trick. It has already saved me
an incredible amount of time and energy." John Berning, Jr.,
Fairfield, NJ

"It's going great with FLOODGATE! I like using Delphi. I just
collected 50,000+ addresses within 20 minutes on-line." Richard Kahn,
R&B Associates

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FLOODGATE ORDER FORM:

Please print out this order form and then fill in the blanks......

______Yes! I would like to try your cutting-edge software so that I
can advertise my business to thousands of people on-line whenever I
like! I understand that I have 10 days to trial the software. If I am
not fully delighted, I will cheerfully be refunded the purchase price,
no questions asked! Please rush me the FLOODGATE package now!

______I am ordering within 72 hours! That qualifies me to receive the
FLOODGATE package at a substantial discount! I am ordering the
software for only $349.95. (Save $150 off the retail price....Software
has sold for as much as $2,499.95)

______I am ordering within 72 hours! That qualifies me to receive free
lifetime technical support.

______I am ordering within 72 hours and I want FREE overnight
shipping!

YOUR NAME_________________________________________________________

COMPANY NAME_____________________________________________________

YOUR POSITION______________________________________________________

STREET ADDRESS_____________________________________________________

CITY, STATE, ZIP______________________________________________________

PHONE NUMBERS______________________________________________________

FAX NUMBERS_________________________________________________________

EMAIL ADDRESSES_____________________________________________________

We accept Checks or Money Orders by mail.

I agree to pay WebAware an additional $27 fee if my check is returned
for insufficient or uncollectable funds.

SIGNATURE: X_________________________________DATE:__________________

Please send all order forms and check or money order to:

D. Mustachi
WebAware
P.O. Box 772261
Coral Springs, FL 33077


************************************************************

OR:

PLEASE PASTE YOUR CHECK HERE

(If you fax a check, there is no need for you to send the original
check by mail. We will draft up a new check, with the exact
information from your original check that you faxed to us)

Please fax the above order form and check to: 1-954-255-3713.

1997\01\11@173206 by CCSys

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Here's where to bitch:

spam_OUTpostmasterTakeThisOuTspambellsouth.net or call 1-800-4dotnet

1997\01\11@183253 by Breck Stapleton

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CCSys wrote:
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> Here's where to bitch:
>
> .....postmasterKILLspamspam@spam@bellsouth.net or call 1-800-4dotnet

Good idea.

I went to Deja News, http://www.dejanews.com/
and did a search for  Dave Mustachi and found a few
other ticked off individuals.

Interesting thing to note, all but one of these news group
postings from Dave's program are fourth of five, in a thread
relating to unwanted bulk email.

Question: "If" I wanted to write a virus to seek and destroy
bulk mail programs, what language would I want to learn?


Breck Stapleton
breckspamKILLspamhub.ofthe.net

1997\01\12@082548 by David Nicholls

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       Cop on and stop this rubbish !



On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Opportunity wrote:

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1997\01\12@111123 by Doyle Whisenant

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David Nicholls wrote:
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>         Cop on and stop this rubbish !
> > To be removed - hit "reply" and type remove in subject of message.
Please don't hit "Reply" because this is sent back to the list!
I have recieved 4-5 copies already. Thanks...

Doyle Whisenant
.....mechanicKILLspamspam.....sonet.net
members.aol.com/mrktmngr/world/wdoyle.html

1997\01\13@120539 by Wireless Scientific

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At 1:14 PM +0000 1/12/97, David Nicholls wrote:
>        Cop on and stop this rubbish !
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>
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>On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Opportunity wrote:
>
>> To be removed - hit "reply" and type remove in subject of message.
>>
>>
>> MARKETING WITH DIRECT EMAIL / BULK EMAIL SERVICES
>>
>> I operate a custom email service. From my experience, your typical

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It's funny that people who complain about junk mail also include the entire
first posting with their complaint.

craig

1997\01\25@062419 by Lifetime Opportunity

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MARKETING WITH DIRECT EMAIL / BULK EMAIL SERVICES

I operate a custom email service. From my experience, your typical
bulk email service just collects email addresses from any source they can rely
on shear
volume emailing to produce the desired results - the "shotgun" approach. I have
found that
by targeting emails to groups that would likely be specifically interested in
your product, the
response rate is much better than when using the "shotgun" approach AND you
don't tend
to annoy as many people (which is nice for both sides). By targeting emails, I
mean that I
collect the addresses myself from on-line areas (forums, newsgroups, etc.) so
that I mail to
people that are likely to be interested in my products based on their on-line
participation.

FLOODGATE is the renegade technology that helps me do this.

This is the same software that all bulk emailing services use!

------------------------------------------------------------------
Floodgate Bulk Email Loader for
Windows Version 5.02 now Supports 17 (really more with the free form filter)
File Formats
------------------------------------------------------------------


SEND OUT 20,000+ MARKETING LETTERS EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Or...every few days. In fact, when I send out just a few thousand
marketing letters each day, it doesn't take long before I'm completely swamped
with email
inquiries and phone calls. This is very easy to do. And each one of these bulk
mailings costs
me nothing. I can teach you how to do this and provide you with the tools you'll
need.

If you've got a good marketing letter, I'll show you how to open the floodgates.
You'll be
deluged with inquiries, leads, and real sales, using nothing but email alone.

Writing a good marketing letter is not easy. I often have to rewrite my
marketing letters a half
dozen times before I get the results I'm looking for. But once you have a good
letter, as you
probably know, you can use the same letter over and over again, predictably and
consistently, closing sales, week after week, month after month.

It takes me about one hour to send my marketing letter to 20,000 fresh email
addresses. I can
do this, thanks to a Windows program I use. It's called Floodgate. It's a bulk
email loader. If
you're interested in electronic marketing, you should know about this program.

THE PROGRAM: FLOODGATE FOR WINDOWS

The Floodgate Bulk Email Loader imports simple text files that anyone can
download from
CompuServe, Prodigy, Delphi Genie, or the Internet. These text files contain
classified ads,
forum messages, or data from the member directory. Each of these files is filled
with email
addresses.

Floodgate is designed to read these files and strip out the email
addresses. It then sorts the addresses, removes any duplicates, and
formats them into an output file, with 10, 20 or 30 addresses per
line. This is all done in one simple step. Just point and click.

You'll need either a Windows based Internet account or an America
On-line account to send out your marketing letters. Neither AOL nor
the Internet charges to send email. Send your letter to 1,000 people or 10,000
people -- the
cost is always the same. NOTHING!

NEW! PREPARE A MAILING OF 50,000+ IN LESS THAN A 1/2 HOUR

If you open an Internet account, you can send each letter to 2,000+
people. The new Floodgate now directly writes distribution lists. Some people
are always
collecting new addresses, but if you publish a newsletter or adsheet, you'll be
using the same
addresses over and over again. That's real power! When using addresses you've
previously
collected, you can press a few buttons and prepare a mailing of 50,000+ in less
than a half
hour.

(To get a list of all the Internet access providers in your local
calling area goto: http://thelist.com and click on your area code.)

The Floodgate Users Guide will teach you, step by step, how to
download the right files, how to strip the addresses, and finally, how to cut
and paste the
formatted addresses into your marketing letter. Or, if you have an Internet
account, how to
create distribution lists. One you've done this a few times you won't even have
to think. It's
that simple!

FOR THE BRAVE & DARING: PUSHING TECHNOLOGY TO ITS LIMITS

As you may know, the practice of sending unsolicited email is usually frowned
upon, and
most service providers have rules against it. But,like jay-walking, there is
little enforcement.
It's not illegal. If someone tells you that it is, ask them to provide the
citation (and don't let
them give you some nonsense about faxes - that's not email). They can't do it
because it's
not there. Sometimes, when a lot of people complain, I get a warning letter. And
that's about
it.

About 1 in 200 will write back and tell me, "take me off the list",
which I can do, thanks to Floodgates Remove List feature. Many people reply back
thanking
me for sending them my informative letter. That's always nice. Most people
though, just reply
and say, "send me more info." In this way, it usually takes me two or three
letters to close a
sale.

The Floodgate Users Guide will provide you with proven formats for
writing a successful marketing letter. You'll test and rewrite, test and
rewrite. Then, once
you've got it, just push a few buttons, and open the floodgates!!!

THE FLOODGATE BULK EMAIL LOADER CURRENTLY SUPPORTS 15+ FILE FORMATS

1. CompuServe Classifieds: Send your marketing letter to everyone who is running
a
classified ad. I'll teach you how to download all the classifieds from any
single ad category.
This is one of the most responsive list of buyers. They check their email every
day and they're
already in business.

2. America On-line Classifieds: Download 1,000 addresses in 15
minutes. These are excellent lists for business to business sales.

3. CompuServe Forums: You can join a forum and download hundreds of
forum messages in a matter of minutes.

4. America On-line Forums: Choose from dozens of forums. All good
targeted lists.

5. Prodigy Forums: Prodigy allows you to easily export any group of
forum messages. More targeted lists.

6. Internet Newsgroups: These are all targeted lists. You'll be able to send
your marketing
letter to everyone who posts a message in any newsgroup. Easily collect 1,000's
of
addresses per   hour.

7. America On-line Member Directory: Most member directories only
allow you to search by city and state. With AOL, you can search by
business type, hobbies, computer type, etc. This is the gem of all
member directories. Build huge targeted lists.

8. CompuServe Member Directory: This is a major resource. If you're
willing to target your mailing to a single city, you can collect about 1,000
email addresses an
hour.

9. Delphi Member Directory: The Delphi member directory allows you to search for
people
based on key words. These are good targeted mailing lists. A single search can
easily
generate 5,000 addresses.

10. Genie Member Directory: Similar to the CompuServe member
directory, only you can download names much quicker. You can easily
pull hundreds of thousands of addresses out of each of these member
directories.

11. CompuServe File Cabinet: If you run classified ads, and save the responses
in the CIM
file cabinet, you'll be able to easily reuse these addresses. You can send your
marketing letter
to everyone in any single folder. Build master lists and clean UP your hard
drive.

12. Free Form: If you have a text file with email addresses that
floodgate does not support, chances are the Free Form filter will be just what
you need. Just
enter a key word to search for.

13. CompuServe Form Profiles (Forum Membership Directories): Easy to build
targeted lists
here. Each search can easily bring you 500+
addresses.

14. Genie Profiles: If you're building targeted lists, you'll get a
lot of addresses very quickly from Genie.

15. Plain Addresses: Read Floodgate Master Files back into Floodgate to merge
files and do
selective mailings. Also useful for the management of email address lists that
you might
purchase.

Floodgate also has filters to allow you to include or exclude any
groups of addresses in your final distribution lists. For example, you could
include only email
addresses that ended in .com or exclude all with .gov. You could exclude all
noc, root, and
other addresses that almost guarantee a negative response. These filters are
fully
configurable and can be used together.

BUILD REUSABLE MASTER FILES

Floodgate maintains Master Files for each of your marketing letters. If you
download from the
same place on a regular basis, you only want to send your letter to the new
people.
Floodgate will compare the new addresses with those in the Master File, and
prepare a
mailing list of only new people. The new addresses are, of course, then added to
the Master
File. With each new mailing your Master File grows and grows.

You may create as many Master Lists as you need. When you start a new marketing
campaign, you'll want to send your new letter to everyone on your Master List.
If you write a
newsletter, each time you send your newsletter, you'll send it to everyone on a
Master List.

THE REMOVE LIST

Very often, people will reply and tell you to take them off your
mailing list. Place these addresses in the REMOVE.MST file and they
will never receive another letter from you again. In this way, you
will be operating your business with the most professionalism
possible.

DON'T BE FOOLED

We have some new competitors that have tried to copy Floodgate. The
following list describes why Floodgate is BETTER.......

**Floodgate is a mature, bug free product. Not an initial release.
**Floodgate comes with over 100 pages of step by step documentation.
**Floodgate is the only one offering a money back guarantee.
**Floodgate has more testimonials. **Filter for filter, Floodgate
offers more capabilities, way more. **Floodgate does everything all
the others *combined* claim. **Floodgate is by far the easiest to use.
**There is NO *cutting and pasting* with Floodgate. **We have by far, the best
technical
support.

SOME QUICK MATH

Floodgate can pay for itself in a few days. It can also cut your
advertising costs down to almost nothing. Think of what the
competition will do when they get their Floodgate program. Don't be
left in the dust - there are 75 million people out there, just a few keystrokes
away. Let's do the
math:

- Email 50,000 sales letters (takes about 1-2 hours)
- Let's say your product will bring you $5 profit per sale.
- Let's also say you only get a 1% response (occasionally higher).

* That's 500 orders x $5 = $2,500 profit !! Now imagine what 500,000 letters
would do for
your business !!

WHAT CAN I MARKET ON-LINE?

You can market anything on-line using direct email, that can be
marketed using conventional postal direct mail marketing. The
possibilities are practically endless. If it sells off-line, you can sell it
on-line.

EASY TO INSTALL AND EASY TO LEARN

The Floodgate Email Loader requires Windows. The docs tell you where to go, what
to do,
and how to do it. All you need are basic computer skills that can be learned
with a little
practice or help from computer savvy friends.

Floodgate has previously sold for as much as $2,499! The complete
package is now available for just $499.95, postpaid. If you order
within 72 hours, it can be your for only $349.95!! (Must be verified on out
autoresponder log,
by received email time stamp, fax time stamp, or voice message time stamp).
These orders will
also receive lifetime technical support and FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING (once your
check
has cleared the bank).

Some say Floodgate is expensive. Compared to direct mail, where you
pay for mailing lists, printing and postage, Floodgate is a bargain. For the
cost of one
traditional mailing, you'll own a Floodgate license and never again pay for
lists, printing or
postage. Those who know direct mail will agree, "Floodgate is the best
advertising value on
the Internet today!"

MONEY BACK GUARANTEE: Try the Floodgate Bulk Email Loader for 10 days. Do a test
mailing. If you're not delighted, return the package for a full refund.

All Floodgate users receive unlimited technical and business support for 30
days, (and if you
don't take up a lot of my time, for a lot longer.) To order the FLOODGATE Bulk
Email Loader,
send your check or money order for $349.95 within 72 hours from receiving this
email letter
to:

WebAware
P.O. Box 772261
Coral Springs, FL 33077
(954) 341-2924
EraseMEwebawarespam_OUTspamTakeThisOuTwebjetters.com

You can receive a functional demo version of Floodgate by
simply replying back to us with the word "Floodgate" in the
subject portion of your email message.

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

386 or larger
Windows 3.1+ with at least 4 meg ram or Windows 95 with 8 meg ram
Extra 5 MB hard drive space

Floodgate can be run on a fast Mac with 24 MB RAM and SoftWindows.

NOTES FROM FLOODGATE USERS

"It is everything you said it was. Within one week of my first
mailing, I received a record number of orders. All you need to print money is a
decent sales
letter. Thanks." Randy albertson, Wolverine Capital.

"After using Floodgate and your utility program all day today, let me say these
are as two of
the finest programs I have ever bought in my 52 years! Your support has been
superb. Thank
You!" Vernon Hale, Prime Data Systems

"My first day and I just used Floodgate and Pegasus to send 1,469
sales letters. So far I've got about 25 positive responses. It works GREAT!!!
Thanks." Donald
Prior

"Floodgate is awesome!. I recently started a new business on-line. I stripped
the addresses of
the AOL & CIS classifieds. I sent out 3,497 email letters and got over 400
people to join my
company in 5 days! Needless to say, it pays for itself." David Sheeham, OMPD

"I was able to use Floodgate to extract the names from the Internet
news groups. It works perfectly. Needless to say, I am very excited
about the use of this new technology." Mark Eberra, Inside Connections

"This is a great piece of software and an invaluable marketing tool."
Joe Kuhn, The Millennium Group

"I just thought you'd like to know that this program is fantastic.
After loading it on my system, I wanted to test it out. In my first
hour of using this, I collected 6,092 email addresses!" Richard Kahn, LD
Communications

"I just love the Floodgate program. It saves me hours and hours of
time. This is the beginning of a wonderful FUN time marketing on-line. Thank you
so much for
writing this program." Beth O'Neill, Eudora, KS

"Your software is brilliant, and from the technical support I've
received, I can see you have a genuine love and respect of
people...Floodgate is a divine package. Wish I had found it sooner."
Tom Sanders, Peoria, IL

"I really like the way the Floodgate software package works. It is
very easy to use, and really does the trick. It has already saved me an
incredible amount of
time and energy." John Berning, Jr.,
Fairfield, NJ

"It's going great with FLOODGATE! I like using Delphi. I just
collected 50,000+ addresses within 20 minutes on-line." Richard Kahn, R&B
Associates

------------------------------------------------------------------
FLOODGATE ORDER FORM:

Please print out this order form and then fill in the blanks......

______Yes! I would like to try your cutting-edge software so that I
can advertise my business to thousands of people on-line whenever I
like! I understand that I have 10 days to trial the software. If I am not fully
delighted, I will
cheerfully be refunded the purchase price, no questions asked! Please rush me
the
FLOODGATE package now!

______I am ordering within 72 hours! That qualifies me to receive the FLOODGATE
package
at a substantial discount! I am ordering the
software for only $349.95. (Save $150 off the retail price....Software has sold
for as much as
$2,499.95)

______I am ordering within 72 hours! That qualifies me to receive free lifetime
technical
support.

______I am ordering within 72 hours and I want FREE overnight shipping!

YOUR NAME_________________________________________________________

COMPANY NAME_____________________________________________________

YOUR POSITION______________________________________________________

STREET ADDRESS_____________________________________________________

CITY, STATE, ZIP______________________________________________________

PHONE NUMBERS______________________________________________________

FAX NUMBERS_________________________________________________________

EMAIL ADDRESSES_____________________________________________________

We accept Checks or Money Orders by mail.

I agree to pay WebAware an additional $27 fee if my check is returned for
insufficient or
uncollectable funds.

SIGNATURE: X_________________________________DATE:__________________

Please send all order forms and check or money order to:

Dave Mustachi
WebAware
P.O. Box 772261
Coral Springs, FL 33077
(954) 341-2924

************************************************************

OR:

PLEASE PASTE YOUR CHECK HERE

(If you fax a check, there is no need for you to send the original
check by mail. We will draft up a new check, with the exact
information from your original check that you faxed to us)

Please fax the above order form and check to: 1-954-255-3713.

1997\01\25@062419 by Lifetime Opportunity

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MARKETING WITH DIRECT EMAIL / BULK EMAIL SERVICES

I operate a custom email service. From my experience, your typical
bulk email service just collects email addresses from any source they can rely
on shear
volume emailing to produce the desired results - the "shotgun" approach. I have
found that
by targeting emails to groups that would likely be specifically interested in
your product, the
response rate is much better than when using the "shotgun" approach AND you
don't tend
to annoy as many people (which is nice for both sides). By targeting emails, I
mean that I
collect the addresses myself from on-line areas (forums, newsgroups, etc.) so
that I mail to
people that are likely to be interested in my products based on their on-line
participation.

FLOODGATE is the renegade technology that helps me do this.

This is the same software that all bulk emailing services use!

------------------------------------------------------------------
Floodgate Bulk Email Loader for
Windows Version 5.02 now Supports 17 (really more with the free form filter)
File Formats
------------------------------------------------------------------


SEND OUT 20,000+ MARKETING LETTERS EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Or...every few days. In fact, when I send out just a few thousand
marketing letters each day, it doesn't take long before I'm completely swamped
with email
inquiries and phone calls. This is very easy to do. And each one of these bulk
mailings costs
me nothing. I can teach you how to do this and provide you with the tools you'll
need.

If you've got a good marketing letter, I'll show you how to open the floodgates.
You'll be
deluged with inquiries, leads, and real sales, using nothing but email alone.

Writing a good marketing letter is not easy. I often have to rewrite my
marketing letters a half
dozen times before I get the results I'm looking for. But once you have a good
letter, as you
probably know, you can use the same letter over and over again, predictably and
consistently, closing sales, week after week, month after month.

It takes me about one hour to send my marketing letter to 20,000 fresh email
addresses. I can
do this, thanks to a Windows program I use. It's called Floodgate. It's a bulk
email loader. If
you're interested in electronic marketing, you should know about this program.

THE PROGRAM: FLOODGATE FOR WINDOWS

The Floodgate Bulk Email Loader imports simple text files that anyone can
download from
CompuServe, Prodigy, Delphi Genie, or the Internet. These text files contain
classified ads,
forum messages, or data from the member directory. Each of these files is filled
with email
addresses.

Floodgate is designed to read these files and strip out the email
addresses. It then sorts the addresses, removes any duplicates, and
formats them into an output file, with 10, 20 or 30 addresses per
line. This is all done in one simple step. Just point and click.

You'll need either a Windows based Internet account or an America
On-line account to send out your marketing letters. Neither AOL nor
the Internet charges to send email. Send your letter to 1,000 people or 10,000
people -- the
cost is always the same. NOTHING!

NEW! PREPARE A MAILING OF 50,000+ IN LESS THAN A 1/2 HOUR

If you open an Internet account, you can send each letter to 2,000+
people. The new Floodgate now directly writes distribution lists. Some people
are always
collecting new addresses, but if you publish a newsletter or adsheet, you'll be
using the same
addresses over and over again. That's real power! When using addresses you've
previously
collected, you can press a few buttons and prepare a mailing of 50,000+ in less
than a half
hour.

(To get a list of all the Internet access providers in your local
calling area goto: http://thelist.com and click on your area code.)

The Floodgate Users Guide will teach you, step by step, how to
download the right files, how to strip the addresses, and finally, how to cut
and paste the
formatted addresses into your marketing letter. Or, if you have an Internet
account, how to
create distribution lists. One you've done this a few times you won't even have
to think. It's
that simple!

FOR THE BRAVE & DARING: PUSHING TECHNOLOGY TO ITS LIMITS

As you may know, the practice of sending unsolicited email is usually frowned
upon, and
most service providers have rules against it. But,like jay-walking, there is
little enforcement.
It's not illegal. If someone tells you that it is, ask them to provide the
citation (and don't let
them give you some nonsense about faxes - that's not email). They can't do it
because it's
not there. Sometimes, when a lot of people complain, I get a warning letter. And
that's about
it.

About 1 in 200 will write back and tell me, "take me off the list",
which I can do, thanks to Floodgates Remove List feature. Many people reply back
thanking
me for sending them my informative letter. That's always nice. Most people
though, just reply
and say, "send me more info." In this way, it usually takes me two or three
letters to close a
sale.

The Floodgate Users Guide will provide you with proven formats for
writing a successful marketing letter. You'll test and rewrite, test and
rewrite. Then, once
you've got it, just push a few buttons, and open the floodgates!!!

THE FLOODGATE BULK EMAIL LOADER CURRENTLY SUPPORTS 15+ FILE FORMATS

1. CompuServe Classifieds: Send your marketing letter to everyone who is running
a
classified ad. I'll teach you how to download all the classifieds from any
single ad category.
This is one of the most responsive list of buyers. They check their email every
day and they're
already in business.

2. America On-line Classifieds: Download 1,000 addresses in 15
minutes. These are excellent lists for business to business sales.

3. CompuServe Forums: You can join a forum and download hundreds of
forum messages in a matter of minutes.

4. America On-line Forums: Choose from dozens of forums. All good
targeted lists.

5. Prodigy Forums: Prodigy allows you to easily export any group of
forum messages. More targeted lists.

6. Internet Newsgroups: These are all targeted lists. You'll be able to send
your marketing
letter to everyone who posts a message in any newsgroup. Easily collect 1,000's
of
addresses per   hour.

7. America On-line Member Directory: Most member directories only
allow you to search by city and state. With AOL, you can search by
business type, hobbies, computer type, etc. This is the gem of all
member directories. Build huge targeted lists.

8. CompuServe Member Directory: This is a major resource. If you're
willing to target your mailing to a single city, you can collect about 1,000
email addresses an
hour.

9. Delphi Member Directory: The Delphi member directory allows you to search for
people
based on key words. These are good targeted mailing lists. A single search can
easily
generate 5,000 addresses.

10. Genie Member Directory: Similar to the CompuServe member
directory, only you can download names much quicker. You can easily
pull hundreds of thousands of addresses out of each of these member
directories.

11. CompuServe File Cabinet: If you run classified ads, and save the responses
in the CIM
file cabinet, you'll be able to easily reuse these addresses. You can send your
marketing letter
to everyone in any single folder. Build master lists and clean UP your hard
drive.

12. Free Form: If you have a text file with email addresses that
floodgate does not support, chances are the Free Form filter will be just what
you need. Just
enter a key word to search for.

13. CompuServe Form Profiles (Forum Membership Directories): Easy to build
targeted lists
here. Each search can easily bring you 500+
addresses.

14. Genie Profiles: If you're building targeted lists, you'll get a
lot of addresses very quickly from Genie.

15. Plain Addresses: Read Floodgate Master Files back into Floodgate to merge
files and do
selective mailings. Also useful for the management of email address lists that
you might
purchase.

Floodgate also has filters to allow you to include or exclude any
groups of addresses in your final distribution lists. For example, you could
include only email
addresses that ended in .com or exclude all with .gov. You could exclude all
noc, root, and
other addresses that almost guarantee a negative response. These filters are
fully
configurable and can be used together.

BUILD REUSABLE MASTER FILES

Floodgate maintains Master Files for each of your marketing letters. If you
download from the
same place on a regular basis, you only want to send your letter to the new
people.
Floodgate will compare the new addresses with those in the Master File, and
prepare a
mailing list of only new people. The new addresses are, of course, then added to
the Master
File. With each new mailing your Master File grows and grows.

You may create as many Master Lists as you need. When you start a new marketing
campaign, you'll want to send your new letter to everyone on your Master List.
If you write a
newsletter, each time you send your newsletter, you'll send it to everyone on a
Master List.

THE REMOVE LIST

Very often, people will reply and tell you to take them off your
mailing list. Place these addresses in the REMOVE.MST file and they
will never receive another letter from you again. In this way, you
will be operating your business with the most professionalism
possible.

DON'T BE FOOLED

We have some new competitors that have tried to copy Floodgate. The
following list describes why Floodgate is BETTER.......

**Floodgate is a mature, bug free product. Not an initial release.
**Floodgate comes with over 100 pages of step by step documentation.
**Floodgate is the only one offering a money back guarantee.
**Floodgate has more testimonials. **Filter for filter, Floodgate
offers more capabilities, way more. **Floodgate does everything all
the others *combined* claim. **Floodgate is by far the easiest to use.
**There is NO *cutting and pasting* with Floodgate. **We have by far, the best
technical
support.

SOME QUICK MATH

Floodgate can pay for itself in a few days. It can also cut your
advertising costs down to almost nothing. Think of what the
competition will do when they get their Floodgate program. Don't be
left in the dust - there are 75 million people out there, just a few keystrokes
away. Let's do the
math:

- Email 50,000 sales letters (takes about 1-2 hours)
- Let's say your product will bring you $5 profit per sale.
- Let's also say you only get a 1% response (occasionally higher).

* That's 500 orders x $5 = $2,500 profit !! Now imagine what 500,000 letters
would do for
your business !!

WHAT CAN I MARKET ON-LINE?

You can market anything on-line using direct email, that can be
marketed using conventional postal direct mail marketing. The
possibilities are practically endless. If it sells off-line, you can sell it
on-line.

EASY TO INSTALL AND EASY TO LEARN

The Floodgate Email Loader requires Windows. The docs tell you where to go, what
to do,
and how to do it. All you need are basic computer skills that can be learned
with a little
practice or help from computer savvy friends.

Floodgate has previously sold for as much as $2,499! The complete
package is now available for just $499.95, postpaid. If you order
within 72 hours, it can be your for only $349.95!! (Must be verified on out
autoresponder log,
by received email time stamp, fax time stamp, or voice message time stamp).
These orders will
also receive lifetime technical support and FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING (once your
check
has cleared the bank).

Some say Floodgate is expensive. Compared to direct mail, where you
pay for mailing lists, printing and postage, Floodgate is a bargain. For the
cost of one
traditional mailing, you'll own a Floodgate license and never again pay for
lists, printing or
postage. Those who know direct mail will agree, "Floodgate is the best
advertising value on
the Internet today!"

MONEY BACK GUARANTEE: Try the Floodgate Bulk Email Loader for 10 days. Do a test
mailing. If you're not delighted, return the package for a full refund.

All Floodgate users receive unlimited technical and business support for 30
days, (and if you
don't take up a lot of my time, for a lot longer.) To order the FLOODGATE Bulk
Email Loader,
send your check or money order for $349.95 within 72 hours from receiving this
email letter
to:

WebAware
P.O. Box 772261
Coral Springs, FL 33077
(954) 341-2924
webawarespamspam_OUTwebjetters.com

You can receive a functional demo version of Floodgate by
simply replying back to us with the word "Floodgate" in the
subject portion of your email message.

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

386 or larger
Windows 3.1+ with at least 4 meg ram or Windows 95 with 8 meg ram
Extra 5 MB hard drive space

Floodgate can be run on a fast Mac with 24 MB RAM and SoftWindows.

NOTES FROM FLOODGATE USERS

"It is everything you said it was. Within one week of my first
mailing, I received a record number of orders. All you need to print money is a
decent sales
letter. Thanks." Randy albertson, Wolverine Capital.

"After using Floodgate and your utility program all day today, let me say these
are as two of
the finest programs I have ever bought in my 52 years! Your support has been
superb. Thank
You!" Vernon Hale, Prime Data Systems

"My first day and I just used Floodgate and Pegasus to send 1,469
sales letters. So far I've got about 25 positive responses. It works GREAT!!!
Thanks." Donald
Prior

"Floodgate is awesome!. I recently started a new business on-line. I stripped
the addresses of
the AOL & CIS classifieds. I sent out 3,497 email letters and got over 400
people to join my
company in 5 days! Needless to say, it pays for itself." David Sheeham, OMPD

"I was able to use Floodgate to extract the names from the Internet
news groups. It works perfectly. Needless to say, I am very excited
about the use of this new technology." Mark Eberra, Inside Connections

"This is a great piece of software and an invaluable marketing tool."
Joe Kuhn, The Millennium Group

"I just thought you'd like to know that this program is fantastic.
After loading it on my system, I wanted to test it out. In my first
hour of using this, I collected 6,092 email addresses!" Richard Kahn, LD
Communications

"I just love the Floodgate program. It saves me hours and hours of
time. This is the beginning of a wonderful FUN time marketing on-line. Thank you
so much for
writing this program." Beth O'Neill, Eudora, KS

"Your software is brilliant, and from the technical support I've
received, I can see you have a genuine love and respect of
people...Floodgate is a divine package. Wish I had found it sooner."
Tom Sanders, Peoria, IL

"I really like the way the Floodgate software package works. It is
very easy to use, and really does the trick. It has already saved me an
incredible amount of
time and energy." John Berning, Jr.,
Fairfield, NJ

"It's going great with FLOODGATE! I like using Delphi. I just
collected 50,000+ addresses within 20 minutes on-line." Richard Kahn, R&B
Associates

------------------------------------------------------------------
FLOODGATE ORDER FORM:

Please print out this order form and then fill in the blanks......

______Yes! I would like to try your cutting-edge software so that I
can advertise my business to thousands of people on-line whenever I
like! I understand that I have 10 days to trial the software. If I am not fully
delighted, I will
cheerfully be refunded the purchase price, no questions asked! Please rush me
the
FLOODGATE package now!

______I am ordering within 72 hours! That qualifies me to receive the FLOODGATE
package
at a substantial discount! I am ordering the
software for only $349.95. (Save $150 off the retail price....Software has sold
for as much as
$2,499.95)

______I am ordering within 72 hours! That qualifies me to receive free lifetime
technical
support.

______I am ordering within 72 hours and I want FREE overnight shipping!

YOUR NAME_________________________________________________________

COMPANY NAME_____________________________________________________

YOUR POSITION______________________________________________________

STREET ADDRESS_____________________________________________________

CITY, STATE, ZIP______________________________________________________

PHONE NUMBERS______________________________________________________

FAX NUMBERS_________________________________________________________

EMAIL ADDRESSES_____________________________________________________

We accept Checks or Money Orders by mail.

I agree to pay WebAware an additional $27 fee if my check is returned for
insufficient or
uncollectable funds.

SIGNATURE: X_________________________________DATE:__________________

Please send all order forms and check or money order to:

Dave Mustachi
WebAware
P.O. Box 772261
Coral Springs, FL 33077
(954) 341-2924

************************************************************

OR:

PLEASE PASTE YOUR CHECK HERE

(If you fax a check, there is no need for you to send the original
check by mail. We will draft up a new check, with the exact
information from your original check that you faxed to us)

Please fax the above order form and check to: 1-954-255-3713.

1997\01\25@101357 by ermott

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1997\01\25@101357 by ermott

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1997\01\25@122433 by bruce

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1997\01\25@122433 by bruce

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1997\01\25@191131 by hoss karoly

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Lifetime Opportunity wrote:
>
>
> SEND OUT 20,000+ MARKETING LETTERS EVERY SINGLE DAY!
>
> WebAware
> P.O. Box 772261
> Coral Springs, FL 33077
> (954) 341-2924
> RemoveMEwebawareTakeThisOuTspamwebjetters.com
>
> "I was able to use Floodgate to extract the names from the Internet
> news groups. It works perfectly.
>
> After loading it on my system, I wanted to test it out. In my first
> hour of using this, I collected 6,092 email addresses!"
>
> I can see you have a genuine love and respect of
> people...
>

am I the only one who hates this kind of spam ?
and I'm not sure "remove" will work

> To be removed - hit "reply" and type remove in subject of message.
>
> I operate a custom email service. From my experience, your typical
> bulk email service just collects email addresses from any source

it'll send them your e-mail address which isn't in their inventory yet
we received this mail through the list but you'll send them your e-mail
...

bye
charley

1997\01\25@202515 by J.P.D. Kooij

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To all you folks who have just got to work on monday morning, were
annoyed by the spammer and had to sigh your way to the replies to the
spam: please forgive me that I also am elaborating on it. Below is a
suggestion that might give some relief to the spam.

On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, hoss karoly wrote:

> Lifetime Opportunity wrote:
> >
> > SEND OUT 20,000+ MARKETING LETTERS EVERY SINGLE DAY!
> >
> > I can see you have a genuine love and respect of
> > people...
> >

Way to go Hoss! You at least noticed some irony in the thing, made me
smile (gee, did you actually *read* the spam?!)

{Quote hidden}

Exactly and replying "remove" to the piclist doesn't help anybody anyway.
So watch out before you slam that reply-button, people. Count to 10 or
so. Do it again in venusian :-) Shout at the wife. Kick the dog. Only
_then_ reply spams to the list.

O.K.; here's the serious stuff:

I am subscribed to another mailinglist, the debian-user list (about the
Debian Linux system, http://www.debian.org) and it has quite an effective anti
spam mechanism. Upon subscription, you are replied an agreement form,
which states that sending commercial messages is o.k. but costs $1000...
You can't post to the list unless you reply the agreement. Maybe this,
when adopted to the piclist, would be something for the piclist-fund :-)
So far, I haven't seen any spammers buying "spamspace" on debian-user
however.

There's some more related to that list that I'd like to mention on this
list: the list-software adds a line to all reflected messages, saying:
"If you want to unsubscribe from this list write UNSUBSCRIBE to: blablah."

By the way, the debian-user list most of the time has much more traffic
than the piclist. So nobody wil hear _me_ complain about traffic density
on the piclist. Moreover, debian-user is actually gated to a newsgroup and
when I post to the list, I "mysteriously" receive spam...

Joost

P.S.: If you really _must_ get back at the spammers (because otherwise
you'd have _real_ work to :-) , read the alt.slack FAQ

1997\01\26@113008 by ermott

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Thanks Charley for the info. on this annoying bulk mailing.  I am
new to subscribing to a mailing list and did not think about this
being a ploy to obtain an e-mail address not in their inventory.

1997\01\27@120951 by John Halleck

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On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, hoss karoly wrote:

> am I the only one who hates this kind of spam ?

 Nope.

> and I'm not sure "remove" will work

 I've tried four times with this crew...

> > To be removed - hit "reply" and type remove in subject of message.

 Doesn't work if they've sent to a mailing list, it goes to the
 list instead.  (As I've pointed out every time I've sent mail
 direct to them.)


 Clearly they have no interest in handling removes.

1997\01\30@055750 by Lifetime Opportunity

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MARKETING WITH DIRECT EMAIL / BULK EMAIL SERVICES

I operate a custom email service. From my experience, your typical
bulk email service just collects email addresses from any source they can rely
on shear
volume emailing to produce the desired results - the "shotgun" approach. I have
found that
by targeting emails to groups that would likely be specifically interested in
your product, the
response rate is much better than when using the "shotgun" approach AND you
don't tend
to annoy as many people (which is nice for both sides). By targeting emails, I
mean that I
collect the addresses myself from on-line areas (forums, newsgroups, etc.) so
that I mail to
people that are likely to be interested in my products based on their on-line
participation.

FLOODGATE is the renegade technology that helps me do this.

This is the same software that all bulk emailing services use!

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SEND OUT 20,000+ MARKETING LETTERS EVERY SINGLE DAY!

Or...every few days. In fact, when I send out just a few thousand
marketing letters each day, it doesn't take long before I'm completely swamped
with email
inquiries and phone calls. This is very easy to do. And each one of these bulk
mailings costs
me nothing. I can teach you how to do this and provide you with the tools you'll
need.

If you've got a good marketing letter, I'll show you how to open the floodgates.
You'll be
deluged with inquiries, leads, and real sales, using nothing but email alone.

Writing a good marketing letter is not easy. I often have to rewrite my
marketing letters a half
dozen times before I get the results I'm looking for. But once you have a good
letter, as you
probably know, you can use the same letter over and over again, predictably and
consistently, closing sales, week after week, month after month.

It takes me about one hour to send my marketing letter to 20,000 fresh email
addresses. I can
do this, thanks to a Windows program I use. It's called Floodgate. It's a bulk
email loader. If
you're interested in electronic marketing, you should know about this program.

THE PROGRAM: FLOODGATE FOR WINDOWS

The Floodgate Bulk Email Loader imports simple text files that anyone can
download from
CompuServe, Prodigy, Delphi Genie, or the Internet. These text files contain
classified ads,
forum messages, or data from the member directory. Each of these files is filled
with email
addresses.

Floodgate is designed to read these files and strip out the email
addresses. It then sorts the addresses, removes any duplicates, and
formats them into an output file, with 10, 20 or 30 addresses per
line. This is all done in one simple step. Just point and click.

You'll need either a Windows based Internet account or an America
On-line account to send out your marketing letters. Neither AOL nor
the Internet charges to send email. Send your letter to 1,000 people or 10,000
people -- the
cost is always the same. NOTHING!

NEW! PREPARE A MAILING OF 50,000+ IN LESS THAN A 1/2 HOUR

If you open an Internet account, you can send each letter to 2,000+
people. The new Floodgate now directly writes distribution lists. Some people
are always
collecting new addresses, but if you publish a newsletter or adsheet, you'll be
using the same
addresses over and over again. That's real power! When using addresses you've
previously
collected, you can press a few buttons and prepare a mailing of 50,000+ in less
than a half
hour.

(To get a list of all the Internet access providers in your local
calling area goto: http://thelist.com and click on your area code.)

The Floodgate Users Guide will teach you, step by step, how to
download the right files, how to strip the addresses, and finally, how to cut
and paste the
formatted addresses into your marketing letter. Or, if you have an Internet
account, how to
create distribution lists. One you've done this a few times you won't even have
to think. It's
that simple!

FOR THE BRAVE & DARING: PUSHING TECHNOLOGY TO ITS LIMITS

As you may know, the practice of sending unsolicited email is usually frowned
upon, and
most service providers have rules against it. But,like jay-walking, there is
little enforcement.
It's not illegal. If someone tells you that it is, ask them to provide the
citation (and don't let
them give you some nonsense about faxes - that's not email). They can't do it
because it's
not there. Sometimes, when a lot of people complain, I get a warning letter. And
that's about
it.

About 1 in 200 will write back and tell me, "take me off the list",
which I can do, thanks to Floodgates Remove List feature. Many people reply back
thanking
me for sending them my informative letter. That's always nice. Most people
though, just reply
and say, "send me more info." In this way, it usually takes me two or three
letters to close a
sale.

The Floodgate Users Guide will provide you with proven formats for
writing a successful marketing letter. You'll test and rewrite, test and
rewrite. Then, once
you've got it, just push a few buttons, and open the floodgates!!!

THE FLOODGATE BULK EMAIL LOADER CURRENTLY SUPPORTS 15+ FILE FORMATS

1. CompuServe Classifieds: Send your marketing letter to everyone who is running
a
classified ad. I'll teach you how to download all the classifieds from any
single ad category.
This is one of the most responsive list of buyers. They check their email every
day and they're
already in business.

2. America On-line Classifieds: Download 1,000 addresses in 15
minutes. These are excellent lists for business to business sales.

3. CompuServe Forums: You can join a forum and download hundreds of
forum messages in a matter of minutes.

4. America On-line Forums: Choose from dozens of forums. All good
targeted lists.

5. Prodigy Forums: Prodigy allows you to easily export any group of
forum messages. More targeted lists.

6. Internet Newsgroups: These are all targeted lists. You'll be able to send
your marketing
letter to everyone who posts a message in any newsgroup. Easily collect 1,000's
of
addresses per   hour.

7. America On-line Member Directory: Most member directories only
allow you to search by city and state. With AOL, you can search by
business type, hobbies, computer type, etc. This is the gem of all
member directories. Build huge targeted lists.

8. CompuServe Member Directory: This is a major resource. If you're
willing to target your mailing to a single city, you can collect about 1,000
email addresses an
hour.

9. Delphi Member Directory: The Delphi member directory allows you to search for
people
based on key words. These are good targeted mailing lists. A single search can
easily
generate 5,000 addresses.

10. Genie Member Directory: Similar to the CompuServe member
directory, only you can download names much quicker. You can easily
pull hundreds of thousands of addresses out of each of these member
directories.

11. CompuServe File Cabinet: If you run classified ads, and save the responses
in the CIM
file cabinet, you'll be able to easily reuse these addresses. You can send your
marketing letter
to everyone in any single folder. Build master lists and clean UP your hard
drive.

12. Free Form: If you have a text file with email addresses that
floodgate does not support, chances are the Free Form filter will be just what
you need. Just
enter a key word to search for.

13. CompuServe Form Profiles (Forum Membership Directories): Easy to build
targeted lists
here. Each search can easily bring you 500+
addresses.

14. Genie Profiles: If you're building targeted lists, you'll get a
lot of addresses very quickly from Genie.

15. Plain Addresses: Read Floodgate Master Files back into Floodgate to merge
files and do
selective mailings. Also useful for the management of email address lists that
you might
purchase.

Floodgate also has filters to allow you to include or exclude any
groups of addresses in your final distribution lists. For example, you could
include only email
addresses that ended in .com or exclude all with .gov. You could exclude all
noc, root, and
other addresses that almost guarantee a negative response. These filters are
fully
configurable and can be used together.

BUILD REUSABLE MASTER FILES

Floodgate maintains Master Files for each of your marketing letters. If you
download from the
same place on a regular basis, you only want to send your letter to the new
people.
Floodgate will compare the new addresses with those in the Master File, and
prepare a
mailing list of only new people. The new addresses are, of course, then added to
the Master
File. With each new mailing your Master File grows and grows.

You may create as many Master Lists as you need. When you start a new marketing
campaign, you'll want to send your new letter to everyone on your Master List.
If you write a
newsletter, each time you send your newsletter, you'll send it to everyone on a
Master List.

THE REMOVE LIST

Very often, people will reply and tell you to take them off your
mailing list. Place these addresses in the REMOVE.MST file and they
will never receive another letter from you again. In this way, you
will be operating your business with the most professionalism
possible.

DON'T BE FOOLED

We have some new competitors that have tried to copy Floodgate. The
following list describes why Floodgate is BETTER.......

**Floodgate is a mature, bug free product. Not an initial release.
**Floodgate comes with over 100 pages of step by step documentation.
**Floodgate is the only one offering a money back guarantee.
**Floodgate has more testimonials. **Filter for filter, Floodgate
offers more capabilities, way more. **Floodgate does everything all
the others *combined* claim. **Floodgate is by far the easiest to use.
**There is NO *cutting and pasting* with Floodgate. **We have by far, the best
technical
support.

SOME QUICK MATH

Floodgate can pay for itself in a few days. It can also cut your
advertising costs down to almost nothing. Think of what the
competition will do when they get their Floodgate program. Don't be
left in the dust - there are 75 million people out there, just a few keystrokes
away. Let's do the
math:

- Email 50,000 sales letters (takes about 1-2 hours)
- Let's say your product will bring you $5 profit per sale.
- Let's also say you only get a 1% response (occasionally higher).

* That's 500 orders x $5 = $2,500 profit !! Now imagine what 500,000 letters
would do for
your business !!

WHAT CAN I MARKET ON-LINE?

You can market anything on-line using direct email, that can be
marketed using conventional postal direct mail marketing. The
possibilities are practically endless. If it sells off-line, you can sell it
on-line.

EASY TO INSTALL AND EASY TO LEARN

The Floodgate Email Loader requires Windows. The docs tell you where to go, what
to do,
and how to do it. All you need are basic computer skills that can be learned
with a little
practice or help from computer savvy friends.

Floodgate has previously sold for as much as $2,499! The complete
package is now available for just $499.95, postpaid. If you order
within 72 hours, it can be your for only $349.95!! (Must be verified on out
autoresponder log,
by received email time stamp, fax time stamp, or voice message time stamp).
These orders will
also receive lifetime technical support and FREE OVERNIGHT SHIPPING (once your
check
has cleared the bank).

Some say Floodgate is expensive. Compared to direct mail, where you
pay for mailing lists, printing and postage, Floodgate is a bargain. For the
cost of one
traditional mailing, you'll own a Floodgate license and never again pay for
lists, printing or
postage. Those who know direct mail will agree, "Floodgate is the best
advertising value on
the Internet today!"

MONEY BACK GUARANTEE: Try the Floodgate Bulk Email Loader for 10 days. Do a test
mailing. If you're not delighted, return the package for a full refund.

All Floodgate users receive unlimited technical and business support for 30
days, (and if you
don't take up a lot of my time, for a lot longer.) To order the FLOODGATE Bulk
Email Loader,
send your check or money order for $349.95 within 72 hours from receiving this
email letter
to:

WebAware
P.O. Box 772261
Coral Springs, FL 33077
(954) 341-2924
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You can receive a functional demo version of Floodgate by
simply replying back to us with the word "Floodgate" in the
subject portion of your email message.

SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS

386 or larger
Windows 3.1+ with at least 4 meg ram or Windows 95 with 8 meg ram
Extra 5 MB hard drive space

Floodgate can be run on a fast Mac with 24 MB RAM and SoftWindows.

NOTES FROM FLOODGATE USERS

"It is everything you said it was. Within one week of my first
mailing, I received a record number of orders. All you need to print money is a
decent sales
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"After using Floodgate and your utility program all day today, let me say these
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You!" Vernon Hale, Prime Data Systems

"My first day and I just used Floodgate and Pegasus to send 1,469
sales letters. So far I've got about 25 positive responses. It works GREAT!!!
Thanks." Donald
Prior

"Floodgate is awesome!. I recently started a new business on-line. I stripped
the addresses of
the AOL & CIS classifieds. I sent out 3,497 email letters and got over 400
people to join my
company in 5 days! Needless to say, it pays for itself." David Sheeham, OMPD

"I was able to use Floodgate to extract the names from the Internet
news groups. It works perfectly. Needless to say, I am very excited
about the use of this new technology." Mark Eberra, Inside Connections

"This is a great piece of software and an invaluable marketing tool."
Joe Kuhn, The Millennium Group

"I just thought you'd like to know that this program is fantastic.
After loading it on my system, I wanted to test it out. In my first
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"It's going great with FLOODGATE! I like using Delphi. I just
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Associates

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1997\01\30@081450 by hoss karoly

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Lifetime Opportunity wrote:
SHIT .

as someone mentioned earlier this guys tend to use one account once
and then disappear .
in this case this is the third time
maybe someone could start a little REVENGE on their account
or inform their sys admin
if anybody knows where to send it , we could ALL drop a line to
make him think

or that good idea from the linux list :)
let the sys admin know that low-life-opportunists use a
pay-for-bulk service without paying the cash so we'll
take legal actions against him .

that'd make him think :)

1997\01\30@094115 by myke predko

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The last time this note came across, I did resend it to the UserID that sent
this with Remove and copied the sysadministrator.

And realized this was probably the dumbest thing I ever did.

I think somebody said this the last time, but I think I realized it about
the same time that the note came out:

The product this guy sells is a mailing list.  He has no idea who any of us
are and what our UserIDs are.

He finds all the listservers he can and sends the spam to them.  Everybody
who replies with "Remove" helps him in two ways:

1.  His product is enhanced with your ID.

2.  He has another sucker he can mail directly and pester to buy his product.

So by ignoring the note you are probably hurting him in the most substantial
way possible by denying him his product (your name) and another potential
customer (you).

myke

{Quote hidden}

"I don't do anything that anybody else in good physical condition and
unlimited funds couldn't do" - Bruce Wayne

1997\01\30@094815 by Christopher Zguris

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A better solution would be to block posts from non-subscribers. I run a
mailing list, and that feature is enabled. Junk like this doesn't make it,
it bounces to me, and I laugh at it as I click on delete.

Just a suggestion.

Chris

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                             IVFROC, HSTA, HRCA

                   There are three sides to every question:
                   your side, his side and to hell with it.

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1997\01\30@112232 by Dean Hadley

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>Lifetime Opportunity wrote:
>SHIT .
>
>as someone mentioned earlier this guys tend to use one account once
>and then disappear .
>in this case this is the third time
>maybe someone could start a little REVENGE on their account
>or inform their sys admin
>if anybody knows where to send it , we could ALL drop a line to
>make him think
>
>or that good idea from the linux list :)
>let the sys admin know that low-life-opportunists use a
>pay-for-bulk service without paying the cash so we'll
>take legal actions against him .
>
>that'd make him think :)

-----------------------------------
Try sending your comments to Postmaster@..... the account were the low-life
came from

1997\01\30@113104 by fastfwd

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Christopher Zguris <PICLISTEraseMEspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU> wrote:

> A better solution would be to block posts from non-subscribers.

   The PICLIST already does this.

   -Andy

Andrew Warren - EraseMEfastfwdspamix.netcom.com
Fast Forward Engineering, Vista, California
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499

1997\01\30@115343 by Mark Timpany

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In <RemoveME32F09662.7D7FEraseMEspamEraseMEbekes.hungary.net>, on 01/30/97 at 01:38 PM,
  hoss karoly <RemoveMEtimothyspam_OUTspamKILLspamBEKES.HUNGARY.NET> said:

>as someone mentioned earlier this guys tend to use one account once and
>then disappear .
>in this case this is the third time

Their fax number stays the same, though. I've been sending my REMOVE
messages to their fax machine using Faxaway, an E-mail to fax server.
For a few cents I get to clutter up their fax messages with the same
junk that is cluttering my mail box.

I guess the nasty response would be to include some pages of solid
black, which tends to overheat some poorly designed fax machines.

Here's hoping that "Lifetime Opportunity" will just go away. I've had
enough for this lifetime.

Cheers,

Mark



//Mark Timpany          RemoveMEmtimpanyTakeThisOuTspamspambroadcast.net
//Jakarta, Indonesia    US Toll Free Fax 1.888.316.2357

1997\01\30@142045 by mike

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In message  <EraseME199701301445.JAA25053spamspamspamBeGoneyork.interport.net> RemoveMEPICLISTKILLspamspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU
writes:
> A better solution would be to block posts from non-subscribers. I run a
> mailing list, and that feature is enabled. Junk like this doesn't make it,
> it bounces to me, and I laugh at it as I click on delete.
>
> Just a suggestion.
>

Chris,

We have discussed this in the past and there are a number of problems
with it:

o  Many regular contributors have slightly different e-mail addresses
   depending on which computer they are using in their office.

o  It isn't difficult to subscribe. You may have the rule "one spam
   and you are out", but one spam is all they want. They then go
   on to a different provider with a different e-mail address and
   do it again.


Regards,



Mike Watson

1997\01\30@144752 by Doug Claar

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>To be removed - hit "reply" and type remove in subject of message.
>
>
>MARKETING WITH DIRECT EMAIL / BULK EMAIL SERVICES

Yep, sure is nice to be on a mailing list, where we don't get any spam...
Seems like *that* argument for not having a newsgroup is moot...

1997\01\30@170401 by Wireless Scientific

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At 11:41 PM +0700 1/30/97, Mark Timpany wrote:
>I guess the nasty response would be to include some pages of solid
>black, which tends to overheat some poorly designed fax machines.

How well does the compression algorithm work on completely black images?
You maybe tying up their line also but a price.

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