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'[PIC] Programmer for industrial use'
2006\03\13@095327
by
brusque
Hello,
we're needing to acquire a microcontroller programmer that would be
used on an industrial environment. This programmer must be stand-alone
(the computer just would be needed for transfering .hex files to the
programmer).
A programmer that works this way must have an internal memory with
enough size to fit some .hex files. To program a device, the device is
socketed on the ZIF (ICSP support would be very usefull) and the file is
selected with the LCD and keys.
Another very interesting feature would be some kind of acess
control/criptography so that users don't have how to extract the .hex
from the programmer.
I've searched the net without finding anything interesting. Someone
have sugestions? Experiences on devices like this?
Best regards,
Brusque
2006\03\13@113950
by
kravnus wolf
|
You may try Olin's programmer. But you may need him to
add encryption to the programmer. As I am not aware of
his programmer supporting such feature by default.
John
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{Quote hidden}> Hello,
>
> we're needing to acquire a microcontroller
> programmer that would be
> used on an industrial environment. This programmer
> must be stand-alone
> (the computer just would be needed for transfering
> .hex files to the
> programmer).
>
> A programmer that works this way must have an
> internal memory with
> enough size to fit some .hex files. To program a
> device, the device is
> socketed on the ZIF (ICSP support would be very
> usefull) and the file is
> selected with the LCD and keys.
>
> Another very interesting feature would be some
> kind of acess
> control/criptography so that users don't have how to
> extract the .hex
> from the programmer.
>
> I've searched the net without finding anything
> interesting. Someone
> have sugestions? Experiences on devices like this?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brusque
> --
2006\03\13@125252
by
olin piclist
kravnus wolf wrote:
> You may try Olin's programmer. But you may need him to
> add encryption to the programmer. As I am not aware of
> his programmer supporting such feature by default.
Thanks for the plug, but the OP wanted something stand alone with the HEX
file stored locally as I understood it. All of my programmers require the
host to send data when needed. They have no local storage of the PIC
program.
2006\03\13@132542
by
Jan-Erik Soderholm
Olin Lathrop wrote :
> kravnus wolf wrote:
> > You may try Olin's programmer. But you may need him to
> > add encryption to the programmer. As I am not aware of
> > his programmer supporting such feature by default.
>
> Thanks for the plug, but the OP wanted something stand alone
> with the HEX file stored locally as I understood it. All of my
> programmers require the host to send data when needed.
> They have no local storage of the PIC program.
On the other hand, the "host" could be a small processor-card
implementing a subset of the host protocol, with some extra
storage, an LCD and some firmware to load hex files from
"the real host" and to run the ProProg...
Jan-Erik.
2006\03\13@141514
by
James Humes
The PM3 will let you store the .hex file on an SD card and use it without
the PC. I haven't heard about it encrypting the files, and I don't know
much about it, but maybe the SD card can secure the files. (SD = secure
digital)
James
On 3/13/06, Jan-Erik Soderholm <.....jan-erik.soderholmKILLspam
@spam@telia.com> wrote:
>
> Olin Lathrop wrote :
>
> > kravnus wolf wrote:
> > > You may try Olin's programmer. But you may need him to
> > > add encryption to the programmer. As I am not aware of
> > > his programmer supporting such feature by default.
>
2006\03\13@142011
by
andrew kelley
> On the other hand, the "host" could be a small processor-card
> implementing a subset of the host protocol, with some extra
> storage, an LCD and some firmware to load hex files from
> "the real host" and to run the ProProg...
The fobbit and/or whatever the other version was called perhaps that
was by Tony Nixon?
Its on the piclist/techref
> Jan-Erik.
--
andrew
2006\03\13@164930
by
James Newton, Host
2006\03\13@172413
by
Bob Axtell
James Newton, Host wrote:
>Pocket Programmer. No longer in production. Open source, so you can build
>your own if you are able.
>
>
>
Yep, that was Tony Nixon's gadget. Its open source now, but I don't have
it anywhere.
--Bob
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2006\03\13@174510
by
Mark Rages
On 3/13/06, EraseMEbrusquespam_OUT
TakeThisOuThotpop.com <brusque
spam_OUThotpop.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> we're needing to acquire a microcontroller programmer that would be
> used on an industrial environment. This programmer must be stand-alone
> (the computer just would be needed for transfering .hex files to the
> programmer).
>
The PICkit2 has been sucessfully used with a PDA. Would that
combination meet your requirements?
The PICkit2 also has enough internal memory to to standalone
programming, but no software has been written to do this that I know
of.
Regards,
Mark
markrages@gmail
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2006\03\13@185634
by
Bob Axtell
brusque@HotPOP.com wrote:
{Quote hidden}>Hello,
>
> we're needing to acquire a microcontroller programmer that would be
>used on an industrial environment. This programmer must be stand-alone
>(the computer just would be needed for transfering .hex files to the
>programmer).
>
> A programmer that works this way must have an internal memory with
>enough size to fit some .hex files. To program a device, the device is
>socketed on the ZIF (ICSP support would be very usefull) and the file is
>selected with the LCD and keys.
>
> Another very interesting feature would be some kind of acess
>control/criptography so that users don't have how to extract the .hex
>from the programmer.
>
> I've searched the net without finding anything interesting. Someone
>have sugestions? Experiences on devices like this?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Brusque
>
>
I spec'd out exactly such a product about 3 yrs ago to be used on a
Mexican production line, in
order to eliminate production errors I have the schematic somewhere, and
I think we made one
on a whitewire PCB.
It used a PIC16F873 and a RAMTRON I2C 32Kx8 FRAM. It held 6 programs
that were accessible
through a selector switch, a dual R/G led, and used 4 AA cells with a
single diode drop for 5.25V.
It was a simple design. Now that programming has become so complex, it
lost its appeal. Had a booster
to run the 13V supply.
To make it commercial now, I'd make it rechargeable via a USB cable, use
a PIC16F88 and a modern
buck up-regulator, and use an ATMEL 128Kx8.
What chip(s) do you need to program?
--Bob
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2006\03\16@145659
by
Robert Ammerman
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jan-Erik Soderholm" <KILLspamjan-erik.soderholmKILLspam
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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 1:25 PM
Subject: RE: [PIC] Programmer for industrial use
{Quote hidden}> Olin Lathrop wrote :
>
>> kravnus wolf wrote:
>> > You may try Olin's programmer. But you may need him to
>> > add encryption to the programmer. As I am not aware of
>> > his programmer supporting such feature by default.
>>
>> Thanks for the plug, but the OP wanted something stand alone
>> with the HEX file stored locally as I understood it. All of my
>> programmers require the host to send data when needed.
>> They have no local storage of the PIC program.
>
> On the other hand, the "host" could be a small processor-card
> implementing a subset of the host protocol, with some extra
> storage, an LCD and some firmware to load hex files from
> "the real host" and to run the ProProg...
On the "gripping" hand the "host" could be an actual embedded PeeCee clone
of some sort (they make 'em pretty small and making Olin's code Linux happen
shouldn't be too hard (if it isn't already)).
Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems
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