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'[PIC] MicroChip ICD2 Broken. Where to get it fixed'
2006\04\13@115343 by Bob Axtell

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anybody know? or do we just toss 'em? or troubleshoot
them ourselves?

I already have another on order...
just wondering.

--Bob

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2006\04\13@124912 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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I fixed my own, it's a couple of cheap output buffers that nearly always fail (they are a 74' series part but can't remember full part of the top of my head).  However you can send them back to Microchip who will fix them for you (actualy, you just get sent an ICD2 from their pile of fixed ones so turn around should be pretty quick).

Regards

Mike

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2006\04\13@125112 by Mark Scoville

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: .....piclist-bouncesKILLspamspam@spam@mit.edu [piclist-bouncesspamKILLspammit.edu]On Behalf
> Of Bob Axtell
> Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:54 AM
> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
> Subject: [PIC] MicroChip ICD2 Broken. Where to get it fixed?
>
>
> anybody know? or do we just toss 'em? or troubleshoot
> them ourselves?
>
> --Bob
>

I believe if you just call Microchip and tell them yours is dead they will
send you a new one at no charge.

-- Mark



2006\04\13@133940 by Mark Rages

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On 4/13/06, Michael Rigby-Jones <.....Michael.Rigby-JonesKILLspamspam.....bookham.com> wrote:
> I fixed my own, it's a couple of cheap output buffers that nearly always fail (they are a 74' series part but can't remember full part of the top of my head).  However you can send them back to Microchip who will fix them for you (actualy, you just get sent an ICD2 from their pile of fixed ones so turn around should be pretty quick).
>
> Regards
>
> Mike
>

Bob,

If you need any 74 series parts let me know!  I have a few cabinets of
'em in my workshop here... ;)

Regards,
Mark

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2006\04\13@140227 by kravnus wolf

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Why does the component die? Bad wiring?

john

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2006\04\13@140752 by Michael Rigby-Jones

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>Why does the component die? Bad wiring?
>

I'm pretty sure that's how ours died!

Regards

Mike

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2006\04\13@165953 by Bob Axtell

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Michael Rigby-Jones wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RemoveMEpiclist-bouncesTakeThisOuTspammit.edu [spamBeGonepiclist-bouncesspamBeGonespammit.edu]
>> Sent: 13 April 2006 19:02
>> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
>> Subject: Re: [PIC] MicroChip ICD2 Broken. Where to get it fixed?
>>
>>
>> Why does the component die? Bad wiring?
>>
>>    
>
>  
I live in a dry, warm area. Lots of static electricity. That's probably
what happened.

--Bob

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2006\04\13@213213 by kravnus wolf

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Sigh............. I expected better QC from
microchip.


john

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2006\04\13@215435 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 4/14/06, kravnus wolf <RemoveMEkravnusspamTakeThisOuTyahoo.com> wrote:
> Sigh............. I expected better QC from
> microchip.
>
>
> john

ICD2 and PICkit 2 are both a bit fragile. I will think this has
less to do with QC but more with the design. The design does
not handle user error well enough.

Still they are designed as a development programmer anyway.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\04\13@221140 by kravnus wolf

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Xiaofan,

   That is why I like ZIF sockets :) Can you
recommend any good book for basic RF theory. The
current book I am reading does not seem to cover RF
basics well enough.

Thanks,
john

PS: I build my ICD2 clone partly b'cos I can repair
any damage to the ICD2 clone during development.



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2006\04\13@223630 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 4/14/06, kravnus wolf <RemoveMEkravnusEraseMEspamEraseMEyahoo.com> wrote:
> Xiaofan,
>
>     That is why I like ZIF sockets :) Can you
> recommend any good book for basic RF theory. The
> current book I am reading does not seem to cover RF
> basics well enough.
>
> Thanks,
> john
>
> PS: I build my ICD2 clone partly b'cos I can repair
> any damage to the ICD2 clone during development.
>

You can use ZIF socket with PICkit 2 and ICD2. I am actually
using a universal adapter with PICkit 2 and ICD2 at home.

Regards,
Xiaofan

PS: Sorry I am not familiar with RF.

2006\04\13@231436 by Xiaofan Chen

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On 4/14/06, Michael Rigby-Jones <RemoveMEMichael.Rigby-Jonesspam_OUTspamKILLspambookham.com> wrote:
> I fixed my own, it's a couple of cheap output buffers that nearly always fail (they are a 74' series part but can't remember full part of the top of my head).  However you can send them back to Microchip who will fix them for you (actualy, you just get sent an ICD2 from their pile of fixed ones so turn around should be pretty quick).
>
> Regards
>
> Mike

Microchip is quite good at supporting their tools. They are still supporting
our Promate II I bought 6 years ago. Last time they simply replace the whole
unit.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\04\13@233613 by Bob Axtell

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Xiaofan Chen wrote:
> On 4/14/06, kravnus wolf <RemoveMEkravnusTakeThisOuTspamspamyahoo.com> wrote:
>  
>> Sigh............. I expected better QC from
>> microchip.
>>
>>
>> john
>>    
>
> ICD2 and PICkit 2 are both a bit fragile. I will think this has
> less to do with QC but more with the design. The design does
> not handle user error well enough.
>
> Still they are designed as a development programmer anyway.
>
> Regards,
> Xiaofan
>
>  
That was my original complaint...

--Bob

2006\04\18@184550 by Juan Cubillo

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how about giving it to a nice Costarrican student who has no acces to one of these???

Juan Cubillo
(The Costarrican student...)

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2006\04\18@185839 by Mat Clayton

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I'll take it off your hands if not!

Mat
(Desperate Cambridge Student, trying to do usb with a picstart+)

http://www.piccoder.co.uk


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2006\04\18@191054 by Phillip

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Hi Mat
I send mine to Microchip and they are happy to send me a replacement





Phillip
Things should be as simple as possible but no simpler



Phillip Coiner
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'[PIC] MicroChip ICD2 Broken. Where to get it fixed'
2006\07\11@150328 by Bob Axtell
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Phillip, where EXACTLY did you send your ICD2? I'm not getting a
resonse, and I need
this one to be fixed.

--Bob

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2006\07\11@152625 by Matt Pobursky

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Bob,

You're a registered Microchip Consultant, aren't you?

If so, contact Donna Mason and she'll get you fixed up PDQ.

Matt Pobursky
Maximum Performance Systems

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:05:14 -0700, Bob Axtell wrote:
> Phillip, where EXACTLY did you send your ICD2? I'm not getting a
> resonse, and I need this one to be fixed.
>
> --Bob

2006\07\11@153309 by Mauricio Jancic

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Bob,
       You must go to the support.microchip.com site and post a ticket
explaining the problem. If they consider that they have to give you a
replacement, they will tell you where to send it.

       Regards,

Mauricio Jancic
Janso Desarrollos
http://www.janso.com.ar
EraseMEinfospamspamspamBeGonejanso.com.ar
(54) 11-4542-3519


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2006\07\11@160143 by Bob Axtell

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Matt Pobursky wrote:
> Bob,
>
> You're a registered Microchip Consultant, aren't you?
>
> If so, contact Donna Mason and she'll get you fixed up PDQ.
>
> Matt Pobursky
> Maximum Performance Systems
>
> On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 12:05:14 -0700, Bob Axtell wrote:
>  
>> Phillip, where EXACTLY did you send your ICD2? I'm not getting a
>> resonse, and I need this one to be fixed.
>>
>> --Bob
>>    
>
>  
No, actually I'm not, because of an NDA conflict many years ago, but
that doesn't seem to be
exist now. I basically retired for health reasons, but the warm, dry,
dusty climate here is helping
me recover. My wife and are now deciding whether we want to get back
into the electronics
mess, let me write novels and short stories, or shoot craps & plan poker
professionally.

Craps and poker always made the most money in the past.


--Bob

2006\07\11@194619 by Peter Todd

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On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 01:03:44PM -0700, Bob Axtell wrote:
> No, actually I'm not, because of an NDA conflict many years ago, but
> that doesn't seem to be
> exist now. I basically retired for health reasons, but the warm, dry,
> dusty climate here is helping
> me recover. My wife and are now deciding whether we want to get back
> into the electronics
> mess, let me write novels and short stories, or shoot craps & plan poker
> professionally.
>
> Craps and poker always made the most money in the past.

I know what you mean, in the past year I've probably earned at least
$-15000 working on electronics, mechanics and computers after expenses,
equipment, tuition and rent get all added up. I don't think I'd have the
nerve to lose money that fast any other way. ;)

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2006\07\11@202737 by Timothy Weber

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Peter Todd wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 01:03:44PM -0700, Bob Axtell wrote:
>> Craps and poker always made the most money in the past.
>
> I know what you mean, in the past year I've probably earned at least
> $-15000 working on electronics, mechanics and computers after expenses,
> equipment, tuition and rent get all added up. I don't think I'd have the
> nerve to lose money that fast any other way. ;)

As the old joke goes... "Beats farming."
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2006\07\11@211116 by Jinx

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> As the old joke goes... "Beats farming."

Farming beets might be a good lurk if you want to
ride the bio-ethanol wave though

2006\07\12@061422 by Gerhard Fiedler

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Timothy Weber wrote:

>> I don't think I'd have the nerve to lose money that fast any other way.
>> ;)
>
> As the old joke goes... "Beats farming."

That joke probably outlived its useful time, with all the farming
subsidies... :)

Gerhard

2006\07\12@163212 by Timothy Weber

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Gerhard Fiedler wrote:
> Timothy Weber wrote:
>
>>> I don't think I'd have the nerve to lose money that fast any other way.
>>> ;)
>> As the old joke goes... "Beats farming."
>
> That joke probably outlived its useful time, with all the farming
> subsidies... :)

Not according to my farming friends!  I think the subsidies go to the
big guys...
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2006\07\16@105116 by Howard Winter

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Timoth,

On Wed, 12 Jul 2006 16:32:11 -0400, Timothy Weber wrote:

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I think on this side of the pond they all go to France...

Cheers,


Howard Winter
St.Albans, England


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