Post by thread:[PIC]: Compiler Recommendation

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Robert C. Gates wrote: > I know this is a rehash of other compiler discussions but if someone would > care to help me in picking a compiler I would appreciate it. My > requirements are that it work for the flash parts, have libraries so that I > am not reinventing the wheel and not cost more than $100 USD. Ease of use > is also a consideration. As far as I know, you have two choices that meet those criteria (which were mine as well): 1.) For small, non-commercial projects, the free versions of Hi-Tech PICC or CCS C. 2.) For anything over 1K, commercial, or that you'll need for more than 30 days: CCS PCM. $99, supports all 14-bit devices, comes with wheels 8-) Everything else I found was either more expensive (most) or cheap/free no libraries (some). Dale --- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu

On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Nick Ray wrote: > > > > 1.) For small, non-commercial projects, the free versions of Hi-Tech PICC > > or CCS C. > > > > Is there a free version of CCS C? I can't see it on their website. I'm in a > similar position that I'd like to get a reasonable compiler for a reasonable > price (hobby use), it'd be nice to get a feel for the product before > committing my hard-earned cash! There is, and you won't find it on their web site. Lord only knows why. in fact, their own people told me there WAS no demo version, but someone on the PICLIST came up with the URL to it anyway. You have to download it from Microchip, and only the PCW product is there in demo form. I can tell you I've been quite happy with it for almost a year now. I've only had to resort to inline assembly code one time, and I'm not so sure I could not re-write that bit in C too. PCW is just PCB (12-bit) and PCM (14-bit) with a Windows IDE thingy wrapped around it. I use PCM, which integrates nicely with MPLAB. Dale --- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList piclist-unsubscribe-requestspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu

part 1 3283 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 (decoded quoted-printable) Hi, I'd recommend the CCS compiler, too, although my ICD sometimes does not like what it produces. As to resorting to assembler with it, I had to in overcoming an apparent compiler bug with slave SPI operation. Other than that, it is very good value for under a ton (�100) and pretty efficient. Dan (Embedded "Robert C. Gates" <@spam@rcgatesKILLspamAMERICANENGR.COM>KILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> image moved 28/03/2001 17:42 to file: pic15969.pcx) Please respond to pic microcontroller discussion list <KILLspamPICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent by: pic microcontroller discussion list <RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> To: spamBeGonePICLISTspamBeGoneMITVMA.MIT.EDU cc: Subject: Re: [PIC]: Compiler Recommendation Security Level:? Internal Thanks for the input. I expected more plugs in general and perhaps some for the free options. The link for the demos mentioned is http://www.microchip.com/14010/helper.htm and it includes CCS, HI-TECH and IAR. I will be checking out CCS. Thanks, Rob {Original Message removed} part 2 165 bytes content-type:application/octet-stream; (decode) part 3 154 bytes -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

I have used a couple of the free ones. While I have not done any side-by-side comparisons to see which produces the fastest/cmot compact code, I did find that the free cmpilers generally do not have much in the way of included function libraries. That was one of your requirements, which is the only reason I didn't list any of those I had tried. A couple of them are also substantially limited subsets or variations on C. Dale On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Robert C. Gates wrote: > Thanks for the input. I expected more plugs in general and perhaps some for > the free options. The link for the demos mentioned is > http://www.microchip.com/14010/helper.htm and it includes CCS, HI-TECH and > IAR. I will be checking out CCS. > > Thanks, > > Rob > > {Original Message removed}

Any comments on the Fed C Compiler? http://www.fored.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: D Lloyd [TakeThisOuTdan.lloydEraseMEspam_OUTGB.ABB.COM] Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:37 AM To: RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTMITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: Compiler Recommendation Hi, I'd recommend the CCS compiler, too, although my ICD sometimes does not like what it produces. As to resorting to assembler with it, I had to in overcoming an apparent compiler bug with slave SPI operation. Other than that, it is very good value for under a ton (£100) and pretty efficient. Dan (Embedded "Robert C. Gates" <rcgatesEraseME.....AMERICANENGR.COM>EraseME.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU> image moved 28/03/2001 17:42 to file: pic15969.pcx) Please respond to pic microcontroller discussion list <EraseMEPICLISTMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent by: pic microcontroller discussion list <RemoveMEPICLISTEraseMEEraseMEMITVMA.MIT.EDU> To: RemoveMEPICLISTspam_OUTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU cc: Subject: Re: [PIC]: Compiler Recommendation Security Level:? Internal Thanks for the input. I expected more plugs in general and perhaps some for the free options. The link for the demos mentioned is http://www.microchip.com/14010/helper.htm and it includes CCS, HI-TECH and IAR. I will be checking out CCS. Thanks, Rob -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [RemoveMEPICLISTTakeThisOuTspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Dale Botkin Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 6:34 PM To: EraseMEPICLISTspamspamBeGoneMITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: Compiler Recommendation On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Nick Ray wrote: > > > > 1.) For small, non-commercial projects, the free versions of Hi-Tech PICC > > or CCS C. > > > > Is there a free version of CCS C? I can't see it on their website. I'm in a > similar position that I'd like to get a reasonable compiler for a reasonable > price (hobby use), it'd be nice to get a feel for the product before > committing my hard-earned cash! There is, and you won't find it on their web site. Lord only knows why. in fact, their own people told me there WAS no demo version, but someone on the PICLIST came up with the URL to it anyway. You have to download it from Microchip, and only the PCW product is there in demo form. I can tell you I've been quite happy with it for almost a year now. I've only had to resort to inline assembly code one time, and I'm not so sure I could not re-write that bit in C too. PCW is just PCB (12-bit) and PCM (14-bit) with a Windows IDE thingy wrapped around it. I use PCM, which integrates nicely with MPLAB. Dale --- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" (I found it!) but "That's funny ..." -- Isaac Asimov -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads