Post by thread:[PIC]: PIC development under Linux

neat basic structure, a little bit more work and it is gonna be THE reference for PICs + Linux Francisco Picdude wrote: {Quote hidden}>Not done yet, but feedback appreciated... > http://www.narwani.org/neil/electronics/pic_linux.html > >Cheers, >-Neil. > > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses] > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: >[PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > >. > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> Not done yet, but feedback appreciated... > http://www.narwani.org/neil/electronics/pic_linux.html Not much yet to feedback upon :) for 'my products': - Jal is available for Linux (as source, if you want). - XWisp (for Wisp682, WLoader and ZPL) runs on Linux Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

> > Not done yet, but feedback appreciated... > > http://www.narwani.org/neil/electronics/pic_linux.html > > Not much yet to feedback upon :) > > for 'my products': > - Jal is available for Linux (as source, if you want). > - XWisp (for Wisp682, WLoader and ZPL) runs on Linux Any Linux software out there that supports the flash parts and the tait serial programmer? Thanks, TTYL -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Nice start. I think it needs a menu somewhere at the top of the page pointing to the subheadings (like a table of contents). Right now there isn't much content so it is not critical but as you expand it will be. On more personal side the links are too similar to the rest of the text for my liking and I think the section on the windows emulation should go at the end - while emulating windows under linux is still running under linux I would have thought that is not the main goal of your website, the main goal is to showcase the native linux tools. I think this is a great idea, looking forward to seeing the page when it has more info. Eugene. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 12:59:40 -0500, Picdude wrote: > Not done yet, but feedback appreciated... > http://www.narwani.org/neil/electronics/pic_linux.html > > Cheers, > -Neil. >From your site: Simulators/Emulators/Debuggers: (Explanation text goes here) This is the *big* catch for me when it comes to switching to Linux for PIC development (and believe me, I'd love to have that option). I haven't seen anyone yet that has written a emulator or debugger interface for Linux that allows hardware debugging (like MPLAB or CCS debugger). Personally, I pend 50% of my PIC development time doing the hardware/software integration and debugging. A simulator is almost worthless once it comes to interfacing with real world hardware and testing my code. The emulator interface might be difficult as Microchip tends to guard even the more mundane technical workings (witness PicStart Plus) from 3rd party developers and the world in general. I believe they will release technical specifications and software protocols under NDA, but that seems to preclude any sort of open source development. A debugger would be less problematic as (I believe) the debugger specifications are available from Microchip. Since a debugger which uses the hardware debug mode of the newer flash PICs is relatively straightforward, I have hopes that someone will develop a software package and possible a debugger pod that's native to Linux. Matt Pobursky Maximum Performance Systems -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Friday 19 September 2003 21:49, Alex Kilpatrick scribbled: > Good job, Neil. > > Do you know if any of the PIC C compilers run under Wine (or whatever is > the current Linux PC emulator)? > > Alex Hey Alex, I've not used C on Linux, nor have I actually used Wine, but I have used VMware quite a bit, and willing to bet and any C compiler that runs under Win* will run under a VMwared Win* installation. But I advocate native Linux usage ... there must be some PIC C compiler out there.... ??? As I get info from others, hopefully we'll find one soon. Cheers, -Neil. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses] -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

BTW, I'll add that I have used dosemu and it's very simple/stable/dos-compliant. So perhaps you could try a command-line C compiler under dosemu. Either way, if you have any success (or partial success, or failure), I'd love to know about it, so I can add it to the webpage. Cheers, -Neil. On Sunday 21 September 2003 11:00, Picdude scribbled: {Quote hidden}> Hey Alex, > > I've not used C on Linux, nor have I actually used Wine, but I have used > VMware quite a bit, and willing to bet and any C compiler that runs under > Win* will run under a VMwared Win* installation. > > But I advocate native Linux usage ... there must be some PIC C compiler out > there.... ??? As I get info from others, hopefully we'll find one soon. > > Cheers, > -Neil. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses] -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

On Friday 19 September 2003 20:49, Herbert Graf scribbled: > Any Linux software out there that supports the flash parts and the > tait serial programmer? Thanks, TTYL Yes. There is a port of PP for Linux, and I've added those details on the webpage. http://www.narwani.org/neil/electronics/pic_linux.html Cheers, -Neil. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses] -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Picdude wrote: > > Any Linux software out there that supports the flash parts and the > > tait serial programmer? Thanks, TTYL > > Yes. There is a port of PP for Linux, and I've added those details on the > webpage. http://www.narwani.org/neil/electronics/pic_linux.html You might want to check through my Linux pic tool links. Some of them are from 1997, but I have updated them every now and then. For example the simple assembler from Timo Rossi is patchable for current parts also. The page is the home page for the serial port 'JDM' Jens Madsen style (no external power required) programmer software for Linux, picprog. Seems to be used with many university classes, schools, etc. http://www.iki.fi/hyvatti/pic/picprog.html (Please use that above address and not the one it is redirected to, that might not be permanent.) -- Foreca Ltd spam_OUTJaakko.HyvattiTakeThisOuTforeca.com Pursimiehenkatu 29-31 B, FIN-00150 Helsinki, Finland http://www.foreca.com -- .....Jaakko.HyvattiKILLspam@spam@iki.fi http://www.iki.fi/hyvatti/ +358 40 5011222 echo 'movl $36,%eax;int $128;movl $0,%ebx;movl $1,%eax;int $128'|as -o/bin/sync -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Jaakko Hyvätti <jaakkospam_OUTHYVATTI.IKI.FI> schreef: [http://www.iki.fi/hyvatti/pic/picprog.html] > You might want to check through my Linux pic tool links. Some of them > are from 1997, but I have updated them every now and then. When I click on "XWisp" in the section "11. Other available programmers" of your webpage I get this error : | The requested URL />PP06</A><DD> Linux and WIndows programming software | that knows about 83 pic'sand 6 programmers.<DT> <A HREF= was not found on | this server. When I look at the HTML it seems that you have forgotten the place a " . Not that it is that important, your picprog works very nice, I have only checked those links out of curiosity :-) -- Met vriendelijke groetjes - Jan Wagemakers - ... export IGNORE_OSWAR=1 -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email @spam@listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Sadly the documentation for the 18F series ICD is not available, as far as I could find. And I spent awhile looking. It was conspicuously missing, I think intentionally. I bit the bullet and bought an ICD2 and have a ratty old laptop running Win2K dedicated to programming/debugging designs. My toolchain is now: CCS under linux for compile Run a program I wrote to hack the file paths in the produced .cod file from linux slashes & path to windows slashes and path Copy to windows laptop (.cod, .hex, .c, .h) Load into mplab Use unix2dos to convert all files that will be used in windows. mplab will not open .hex files that have unix-style end-of-line character codes. This system works *most* of the time. Sometimes mplab (6.20) doesn't correlate the .cod with the source files. No error, just no source level tracking. The .hex import always works, so you can always single step at the assember level. I'm willing to bet that a .cod conversion program that actually fully parses the .cod and creates a new one would solve this. My hack program just rewrites paths in-place. I suspect this doesn't always work. Anyone interested in more details contact me ... I wouldn't mind at all writing something up for inclusion on the hopefully definitive PIC+Linux webpage. Jesse {Quote hidden}> > A debugger would be less problematic as (I believe) the debugger > specifications are available from Microchip. Since a debugger which > uses the hardware debug mode of the newer flash PICs is relatively > straightforward, I have hopes that someone will develop a software > package and possible a debugger pod that's native to Linux. > > Matt Pobursky > Maximum Performance Systems > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > -- Bill Gates is a crook and millions of tax dollars have been spent prosecuting and convicting Microsoft of illegal business practices. Do not give them another dime until they have repaid the US government these costs. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList KILLspampiclist-unsubscribe-requestKILLspammitvma.mit.edu

CCS makes linux versions, tho I have to say I can't really recommend them, I have dealt with appalling bugs and they don't update the linux in step with the windows one. You have to ask and bug them about it. But it does run in linux. Jesse Picdude wrote: {Quote hidden}> On Friday 19 September 2003 21:49, Alex Kilpatrick scribbled: > >>Good job, Neil. >> >>Do you know if any of the PIC C compilers run under Wine (or whatever is >>the current Linux PC emulator)? >> >>Alex > > > Hey Alex, > > I've not used C on Linux, nor have I actually used Wine, but I have used > VMware quite a bit, and willing to bet and any C compiler that runs under > Win* will run under a VMwared Win* installation. > > But I advocate native Linux usage ... there must be some PIC C compiler out > there.... ??? As I get info from others, hopefully we'll find one soon. > > Cheers, > -Neil. > > --- -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList RemoveMEpiclist-unsubscribe-requestTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu