Post by thread:[PIC]:, RE:CableCrypt PIC code ?

>>The piclist isn't for cracking. Take this shit to a >phreaking list or >>site. >>FIRST WARNING >SORRY, i was just searching about the knowledge >only, >i thought that can i send about this subject here, And it's a shame we cannot discuss this subject here. Where the hell is your first amendement??? --------------8<-------Corte aqui-------8<-------------- All the best!!! Alexandre Souza spam_OUTxandinhoTakeThisOuTinterlink.com.br Linux User #85093 --------------8<-------Corte aqui-------8<-------------- -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email .....listservKILLspam@spam@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

Geez, the guy was only asking a question man. Take it easy. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alexandre Domingos F. Souza" <xandinhoKILLspamINTERLINK.COM.BR> To: <.....PICLISTKILLspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2000 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [PIC]:, RE:CableCrypt PIC code ? > >>The piclist isn't for cracking. Take this shit to a > >phreaking list or > >>site. > >>FIRST WARNING > >SORRY, i was just searching about the knowledge > >only, > >i thought that can i send about this subject here, > > And it's a shame we cannot discuss this subject here. Where the hell is your first amendement??? {Quote hidden}> > > --------------8<-------Corte aqui-------8<-------------- > > All the best!!! > Alexandre Souza > EraseMExandinhospam_OUTTakeThisOuTinterlink.com.br > Linux User #85093 > > --------------8<-------Corte aqui-------8<-------------- > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listservspam_OUTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > > -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email @spam@listservKILLspammitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

>Geez, the guy was only asking a question man. Take it easy. Hey, I was not talking to him, but the moderator who wrote the "first warning" message :oD --------------8<-------Corte aqui-------8<-------------- All the best!!! Alexandre Souza KILLspamxandinhoKILLspaminterlink.com.br Linux User #85093 --------------8<-------Corte aqui-------8<-------------- -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email RemoveMElistservTakeThisOuTmitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body

>the moderator who wrote the "first warning" message yeah, he must have woken up on the wrong side of bed :P Personally I wouldnt mind reading some info on the subject. I dont even have cable here, nor will I ever get it (geographical reasons for one) I am not for 'cable-piracy' but I still finds it a interesting subject. I'd like to know because I have a wide tech interest. Isnt it so that the 'forbidden' info is the most exciting one ? How the coding is done, what techniques implemented etc :) Isnt knowledge free ? If u then choose to do something possibly illegal that should be a matter for the police and not for Piclist admins ? (just my 2 cents) still I wouldnt lose any sleep if this tread didnt come up on the list ! hehe {Original Message removed}

Two problems with that: A) the PICList is dependant on the use of equipment and resources from our host, MIT. In case you hadn't noticed, the email address is spamBeGonepiclistspamBeGonemitvma.mit.edu. As in... Massachusetts Institute of Technology. I, for one, am not going to allow MIT equipment to be used to disseminate information that will be used to steal. Much less risk the possibility that MIT might decide to drop the PICList. And don't start about getting a new list server, most people find this list by some mention of that email address on a web site or archive or whatever. And its not a small cost to support 1900 members times 100 or so posts a day. B) Engineers who don't police the release of their knowledge or the use of their products are irresponsible at best. Just because an engineer (or "hacker" in the "person who is driven to understand how things work" sense of the word) figures out how a PSX chip can be written, doesn't mean that the people he or she sends that data too will appreciate that knowledge or use it in an honest manner. And when they use it to steal, in the end, its the hacker who pays the price. Yes, I see the positive side of learning about PSX chips and I see the "justifications" for using them, but don't post the result of your efforts to 1900 people, some of whom may not use that information as you intend and who may, at a minimum, damage the hacker reputation further (as if it could be damaged further) and quite possibly get your butt in serious poop. And finally, keep in mind that the PICList is... ...NOT PUBLIC PROPERTY... ...it is owned, lock, stock and barrel, by Jory. Period. Jory says he doesn't want to have to police this crap and has appealed to people to post appropriately. Jory also made me an Admin and List Owner and he has given me permission to police it. And I want to. Don't like it? Tell me how I can handle it better ...directly to me ...or tell Jory to fire me. Please don't keep crying to the list. --- James Newton (PICList Admin #3) TakeThisOuTjamesnewtonEraseMEspam_OUTpiclist.com 1-619-652-0593 PIC/PICList FAQ: http://www.piclist.com or .org {Original Message removed}

I like to think of myself as a guest in the "PICLIST house". If I show up at your party naked, bug your other guests, and annoy you, then, James you have the right to escort me to your door. If you don't like my behavior or opinion, I will be the one leaving. I'm not going to argue that I have a right to stay, I'm just one of your (and Jory's) 1900 invited guests. I hope more people share this opinion. (Oh, god, I lay awake at night hoping that my server doesn't ever bounce messages...:-| ) -Robert Severson http://usbsimm.home.att.net http://www.jged.com http://www.annatechnology.com > {Original Message removed}