>
> Ray,
>
> I will give your resume to our HR dept. as we will probably be
> hiring in the near future.
> Looking over your resume, I see that you have a wide field of
> experience, but my intuition
> says that your age may limit your employability (is that a word?).
> But I'll give it a shot
> anyway because I believe we can utilize some of your skills.
>
> I have nothing to do with hiring at all, so all I can do is submit
> your resume. The rest is up to HR.
>
> By the way, my name is Jim Paul and I work for Colibrys Inc. is
> Stafford (SW Houston), Tx.
>
> I'll let you know if I find out anything.
>
> Gotta go now and prepare for hurricane Ike.  We won't be back to
> work until Monday the 15th, assuming the building is still here.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Jim
>

>
> Ray,
>
> I will give your resume to our HR dept. as we will probably be
> hiring in the near future.
> Looking over your resume, I see that you have a wide field of
> experience, but my intuition
> says that your age may limit your employability (is that a word?).
> But I'll give it a shot
> anyway because I believe we can utilize some of your skills.
>
> I have nothing to do with hiring at all, so all I can do is submit
> your resume. The rest is up to HR.
>
> By the way, my name is Jim Paul and I work for Colibrys Inc. is
> Stafford (SW Houston), Tx.
>
> I'll let you know if I find out anything.
>
> Gotta go now and prepare for hurricane Ike.  We won't be back to
> work until Monday the 15th, assuming the building is still here.
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Jim
>

> I got my degree back in tube era, 1967
> My first job was at SYLVANIA ELECTRONICS GTE
> color TV (tube)
> After that I NEVER applied for a job.
> I was always sought out to design new products.
> Even was asked to fix offshore production problems as well as setup same from scratch.
> Went full time consulting in 1981.
> http://www.microdesigns.biz/past_designs.html
>
> Everything was fine until this year.
> All my major companies I designed/manufactured for since 1994
> have been purchased by the same companies who are funded by the Chinese.
> http://www.nortek-inc.com/companys.htm
>
> They moved all production to China and all engineering in house.
>
> Now no one know me.
>
> So I started to apply for a job.
> Local and anywhere in USA.
> Not one bite.
>
> I have had several resume writers write my resume.
> http://www.microdesigns.biz/ NewmanRay_Res_2008.doc
> No help
>
> I have no clue what to do next!
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Ray
>
>
>
>  

> Rochester NY has been booming in medical instruments industry, and
> it is only about an hour away from Buffalo, have you tried on east
> Rochester area?
>
> Best wish,
>
> Funny N.
> Au Group Electronics, New Bedford, MA, http://www.AuElectronics.com
>

> Have you considered perhaps doing some short term contracting gigs?
>
> I look online at dice.com , although that is mainly IT, there
> appears to be a good mix of EE jobs as well...   A search for "EE"
> brought up lots of hits, and I'm sure other keywords would be of
> interest as well. Some of these are fulltime, but quite a few are 6
> month or 1 year projects, where they are bringing in help for a
> specific project.
>
> -forrest
>
>

> Have you considered perhaps doing some short term contracting gigs?
>
> I look online at dice.com , although that is mainly IT, there
> appears to be a good mix of EE jobs as well...   A search for "EE"
> brought up lots of hits, and I'm sure other keywords would be of
> interest as well. Some of these are fulltime, but quite a few are 6
> month or 1 year projects, where they are bringing in help for a
> specific project.
>
> -forrest
>
>
> Ray Newman wrote:
>> I got my degree back in tube era, 1967
>> My first job was at SYLVANIA ELECTRONICS GTE
>> color TV (tube)
>> After that I NEVER applied for a job.
>> I was always sought out to design new products.
>> Even was asked to fix offshore production problems as well as
>> setup same from scratch. Went full time consulting in 1981.
>> http://www.microdesigns.biz/past_designs.html
>>
>> Everything was fine until this year.
>> All my major companies I designed/manufactured for since 1994
>> have been purchased by the same companies who are funded by the
>> Chinese. http://www.nortek-inc.com/companys.htm
>>
>> They moved all production to China and all engineering in house.
>>
>> Now no one know me.
>>
>> So I started to apply for a job.
>> Local and anywhere in USA.
>> Not one bite.
>>
>> I have had several resume writers write my resume.
>> http://www.microdesigns.biz/ NewmanRay_Res_2008.doc
>> No help
>>
>> I have no clue what to do next!
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ray

>I got my degree back in tube era, 1967
>My first job was at SYLVANIA ELECTRONICS GTE
>color TV (tube)
>After that I NEVER applied for a job.
>I was always sought out to design new products.
>Even was asked to fix offshore production problems as well as setup
>same from scratch.
>Went full time consulting in 1981.
>http://www.microdesigns.biz/past_designs.html
>
>Everything was fine until this year.
>All my major companies I designed/manufactured for since 1994
>have been purchased by the same companies who are funded by the Chinese.
>http://www.nortek-inc.com/companys.htm
>
>They moved all production to China and all engineering in house.
>
>Now no one know me.
>
>So I started to apply for a job.
>Local and anywhere in USA.
>Not one bite.
>
>I have had several resume writers write my resume.
>http://www.microdesigns.biz/ NewmanRay_Res_2008.doc
>No help
>
>I have no clue what to do next!
>Any suggestions?
>
>Thanks,
>Ray

> Forrest,
> One of the problems I have is keywords.
> Terminology has changed in 30 years.
> I had always called myself a design engineer
> I develop, design, research, purchase, QC, setup, supervise, field service
> turn-key from what is needed to actual offshore manufacturing.
>
> If I use design, it turns out to be drafting.
> I like to do everything but what are the keyword for that?
>
> What are the proper keywords and what do they mean when searching????
> Thanks,
> Ray
>
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:41:42 -0600, Forrest Christian wrote:
> > Have you considered perhaps doing some short term contracting gigs?
> >
> > I look online at dice.com , although that is mainly IT, there
> > appears to be a good mix of EE jobs as well...   A search for "EE"
> > brought up lots of hits, and I'm sure other keywords would be of
> > interest as well. Some of these are fulltime, but quite a few are 6
> > month or 1 year projects, where they are bringing in help for a
> > specific project.
> >
> > -forrest
> >
> >
> > Ray Newman wrote:
> >> I got my degree back in tube era, 1967
> >> My first job was at SYLVANIA ELECTRONICS GTE
> >> color TV (tube)
> >> After that I NEVER applied for a job.
> >> I was always sought out to design new products.
> >> Even was asked to fix offshore production problems as well as
> >> setup same from scratch. Went full time consulting in 1981.
> >> http://www.microdesigns.biz/past_designs.html
> >>
> >> Everything was fine until this year.
> >> All my major companies I designed/manufactured for since 1994
> >> have been purchased by the same companies who are funded by the
> >> Chinese. http://www.nortek-inc.com/companys.htm
> >>
> >> They moved all production to China and all engineering in house.
> >>
> >> Now no one know me.
> >>
> >> So I started to apply for a job.
> >> Local and anywhere in USA.
> >> Not one bite.
> >>
> >> I have had several resume writers write my resume.
> >> http://www.microdesigns.biz/ NewmanRay_Res_2008.doc
> >> No help
> >>
> >> I have no clue what to do next!
> >> Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Ray
>
>
>
>

>At 12:50 PM 9/11/2008, you wrote:
> >I got my degree back in tube era, 1967
> >My first job was at SYLVANIA ELECTRONICS GTE
> >color TV (tube)
> >After that I NEVER applied for a job.
> >I was always sought out to design new products.
> >Even was asked to fix offshore production problems as well as setup
> >same from scratch.
> >Went full time consulting in 1981.
> >http://www.microdesigns.biz/past_designs.html
> >
> >Everything was fine until this year.
> >All my major companies I designed/manufactured for since 1994
> >have been purchased by the same companies who are funded by the Chinese.
> >http://www.nortek-inc.com/companys.htm
> >
> >They moved all production to China and all engineering in house.
> >
> >Now no one know me.
> >
> >So I started to apply for a job.
> >Local and anywhere in USA.
> >Not one bite.
> >
> >I have had several resume writers write my resume.
> >http://www.microdesigns.biz/ NewmanRay_Res_2008.doc
> >No help
> >
> >I have no clue what to do next!
> >Any suggestions?
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Ray
>
>Hi, Ray, long time no see.
>
>If you have a recognized EE degree (not necessarily P.E.) you can work
>in Canada with minimal paperwork. Not sure how good the market is, but
>maybe better than Western NY state.

>Another idea- maybe you could package yourself a little differently
>as some part of a supply chain. You might have to take some courses
>to fill in gaps, but you certainly have a great deal of useful knowledge
>ancillary to engineering proper.
>
> >Best regards,
>
>Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..."            "The Journey is the reward"
>RemoveMEspeffTakeThisOuTinterlog.com             Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
>Embedded software/hardware/analog  Info for designers:  http://www.speff.com
>
>
>

> Forrest,
> One of the problems I have is keywords.
> Terminology has changed in 30 years.
> I had always called myself a design engineer
> I develop, design, research, purchase, QC, setup, supervise, field service
> turn-key from what is needed to actual offshore manufacturing.
>
> If I use design, it turns out to be drafting.
> I like to do everything but what are the keyword for that?
>
> What are the proper keywords and what do they mean when searching????
> Thanks,
> Ray
>
>
>
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:41:42 -0600, Forrest Christian wrote:
>  
>>  Have you considered perhaps doing some short term contracting gigs?
>>
>>  I look online at dice.com , although that is mainly IT, there
>>  appears to be a good mix of EE jobs as well...   A search for "EE"
>>  brought up lots of hits, and I'm sure other keywords would be of
>>  interest as well. Some of these are fulltime, but quite a few are 6
>>  month or 1 year projects, where they are bringing in help for a
>>  specific project.
>>
>>  -forrest
>>
>>
>>  Ray Newman wrote:
>>    
>>>  I got my degree back in tube era, 1967
>>>  My first job was at SYLVANIA ELECTRONICS GTE
>>>  color TV (tube)
>>>  After that I NEVER applied for a job.
>>>  I was always sought out to design new products.
>>>  Even was asked to fix offshore production problems as well as
>>>  setup same from scratch. Went full time consulting in 1981.
>>>  http://www.microdesigns.biz/past_designs.html
>>>
>>>  Everything was fine until this year.
>>>  All my major companies I designed/manufactured for since 1994
>>>  have been purchased by the same companies who are funded by the
>>>  Chinese. http://www.nortek-inc.com/companys.htm
>>>
>>>  They moved all production to China and all engineering in house.
>>>
>>>  Now no one know me.
>>>
>>>  So I started to apply for a job.
>>>  Local and anywhere in USA.
>>>  Not one bite.
>>>
>>>  I have had several resume writers write my resume.
>>>  http://www.microdesigns.biz/ NewmanRay_Res_2008.doc
>>>  No help
>>>
>>>  I have no clue what to do next!
>>>  Any suggestions?
>>>
>>>  Thanks,
>>>  Ray
>>>      
>
>
>
>  

>
> My 2 cents is that you may like doing everything but few if any
> companies look actively for such an individual.  They look for an
> engineer or a technician or a purchasing agent or a field service
> tech etc.
>
> However, once inside the door (ie, once hired), companies are glad
> to find out you are good at everything and will use your talents.
> But most companies see all the job skills you listed above as
> separate distinct job functions, done by separate distinct people.
>
> Look at what companies are advertising and adjust your resume for
> that particular job opening.  Once you get an interview, you can
> mention other areas of skill but emphasize the skill that they are
> hiring for if you want to get hired.
>
> Personally, I would attempt to get consulting or contract work.  I
> have heard many stories of companies that don't have the manpower
> so bring in people on a temporary basis but if the person is good,
> they end up offering a full time job.  Being a short term
> consultant/contractor allows them to safely size you up and to get
> rid of you if you don't meet their standards.  The same works for
> you too.  When my partner and I were consulting, we received many
> offers from our clients to become full time employees but turned
> them down since we charged far more as consultants than we ever
> would have made as employees.

> What I would do is start with "EE" or something similar and then look at
> the job descriptions and see what people are using for the types of
> tasks you performed.
>
> Plus, searching for things like "oscilloscope" or "SMT" or similar might
> get you some hits....    In fact, if you search for "microchip", you'll
> find quite a few hits..
>
> But I think the key is reading the job descriptions and building from there.
>
> -forrest
>
> Ray Newman wrote:
>  
>> Forrest,
>> One of the problems I have is keywords.
>> Terminology has changed in 30 years.
>> I had always called myself a design engineer
>> I develop, design, research, purchase, QC, setup, supervise, field service
>> turn-key from what is needed to actual offshore manufacturing.
>>
>> If I use design, it turns out to be drafting.
>> I like to do everything but what are the keyword for that?
>>
>> What are the proper keywords and what do they mean when searching????
>> Thanks,
>> Ray
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:41:42 -0600, Forrest Christian wrote:
>>  
>>    
>>>  Have you considered perhaps doing some short term contracting gigs?
>>>
>>>  I look online at dice.com , although that is mainly IT, there
>>>  appears to be a good mix of EE jobs as well...   A search for "EE"
>>>  brought up lots of hits, and I'm sure other keywords would be of
>>>  interest as well. Some of these are fulltime, but quite a few are 6
>>>  month or 1 year projects, where they are bringing in help for a
>>>  specific project.
>>>
>>>  -forrest
>>>
>>>
>>>  Ray Newman wrote:
>>>    
>>>      
>>>>  I got my degree back in tube era, 1967
>>>>  My first job was at SYLVANIA ELECTRONICS GTE
>>>>  color TV (tube)
>>>>  After that I NEVER applied for a job.
>>>>  I was always sought out to design new products.
>>>>  Even was asked to fix offshore production problems as well as
>>>>  setup same from scratch. Went full time consulting in 1981.
>>>>  http://www.microdesigns.biz/past_designs.html
>>>>
>>>>  Everything was fine until this year.
>>>>  All my major companies I designed/manufactured for since 1994
>>>>  have been purchased by the same companies who are funded by the
>>>>  Chinese. http://www.nortek-inc.com/companys.htm
>>>>
>>>>  They moved all production to China and all engineering in house.
>>>>
>>>>  Now no one know me.
>>>>
>>>>  So I started to apply for a job.
>>>>  Local and anywhere in USA.
>>>>  Not one bite.
>>>>
>>>>  I have had several resume writers write my resume.
>>>>  http://www.microdesigns.biz/ NewmanRay_Res_2008.doc
>>>>  No help
>>>>
>>>>  I have no clue what to do next!
>>>>  Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks,
>>>>  Ray
>>>>      
>>>>        
>>
>>  
>>    
>
>  

> Maybe I can just share with you one guy's experience I met last
> year when I was doing some testing in Cleveland. A newly hired
> hired technician was hired to help me. He was actually assigned by
> an outside contract company to work inside my company. He was 60
> years old last year. Then I found out actually he was very
> experienced with electronics and suggested me how to perform the
> test better. He is also a very nice guy so we enjoyed talking to
> each other.
>
> He used to work for a company (In CA?) who had a successful IPO (or
> bought by another big company)  and he was enjoying life (in the
> North East) and spent time on mostly non-electronics things
> (investing in the stock market?) for about 10 years but he still
> enjoyed doing electronics related work mostly as hobby. The stock
> market was not good for some engineers ;-), so he had to work
> again. He was ok with the technician job since his expect ion was
> not high for the first job after semi-retirement.
>
> After two weeks, he told me he found a new job as a senior test
> engineer for a research institute using Labview to integrated test
> systems. Of course that was a much better job so he moved on.
>
> I think you are in a better situation than he. So maybe you can
> lower the requirement for the first job and then move on to a
> better job the next time.
>
> Xiaofan

> On Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Ray Newman <TakeThisOuTlistEraseMEspam_OUTmicrodesigns.biz> wrote:
>  
>> I'd be happy with consulting work.
>> Remember I never had to look for anything until this year.
>> Everybody knew me, well at least 20 different companies.
>> But they all have been sold, replaced staff, and in 20%, went under.
>> But the biggest hit I took was the last group of companies being purchased
>> by the same group.
>>
>>    
>
> Maybe I can just share with you one guy's experience I met last year when
> I was doing some testing in Cleveland. A newly hired hired technician
> was hired to help me. He was actually assigned by an outside contract
> company to work inside my company. He was 60 years old last year.
> Then I found out actually he was very experienced with electronics
> and suggested me how to perform the test better. He is also a very
> nice guy so we enjoyed talking to each other.
>
> He used to work for a company (In CA?) who had a successful IPO
> (or bought by another big company)  and he was enjoying life (in the
> North East) and spent time on mostly non-electronics things
> (investing in the stock market?) for about 10 years but he still
> enjoyed doing electronics related work mostly as hobby. The
> stock market was not good for some engineers ;-), so he had
> to work again. He was ok with the technician job since his
> expect ion was not high for the first job after semi-retirement.
>
> After two weeks, he told me he found a new job as a senior
> test engineer for a research institute using Labview to integrated
> test systems. Of course that was a much better job so he moved on.
>
> I think you are in a better situation than he. So maybe you
> can lower the requirement for the first job and then move on
> to a better job the next time.
>
> Xiaofan
>  

>I got my degree back in tube era, 1967
> My first job was at SYLVANIA ELECTRONICS GTE
> color TV (tube)
> After that I NEVER applied for a job.
> I was always sought out to design new products.
> Even was asked to fix offshore production problems as well as setup same
> from scratch.
> Went full time consulting in 1981.
> http://www.microdesigns.biz/past_designs.html
>
> Everything was fine until this year.
> All my major companies I designed/manufactured for since 1994
> have been purchased by the same companies who are funded by the Chinese.
> http://www.nortek-inc.com/companys.htm
>
> They moved all production to China and all engineering in house.
>
> Now no one know me.
>
> So I started to apply for a job.
> Local and anywhere in USA.
> Not one bite.
>
> I have had several resume writers write my resume.
> http://www.microdesigns.biz/ NewmanRay_Res_2008.doc
> No help
>
> I have no clue what to do next!
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Ray
>
>
>

> I got my degree back in tube era, 1967
> My first job was at SYLVANIA ELECTRONICS GTE
> color TV (tube)
> After that I NEVER applied for a job.
> I was always sought out to design new products.
> Even was asked to fix offshore production problems as well as setup same from scratch.
> Went full time consulting in 1981.
> http://www.microdesigns.biz/past_designs.html
>
> Everything was fine until this year.
> All my major companies I designed/manufactured for since 1994
> have been purchased by the same companies who are funded by the Chinese.
> http://www.nortek-inc.com/companys.htm
>
> They moved all production to China and all engineering in house.
>
> Now no one know me.
>
> So I started to apply for a job.
> Local and anywhere in USA.
> Not one bite.
>
> I have had several resume writers write my resume.
> http://www.microdesigns.biz/ NewmanRay_Res_2008.doc
> No help
>
> I have no clue what to do next!
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Ray
>
>
>

> That's a problem. Starting by consulting is a good shot, because they
> won't pay you if you can't perform for whatever reason.
>
> I am working 32 hrs/week, a regular employee but now "part time". I am
> 65, and I have a LOT of PIC skills, which helps a lot. At 65, the
> managers are skeptical that you have been keeping up technically. You
> will have to prove your competence.
>
> Another factor is health. If you are hired, their insurance rates rise
> just because of your policy, so they might not hire you just for that
> reason; so if you have another insurance source (my wife is a nurse)
> and can use it, tell the employer that you are willing to pass up
> their insurance. That might be the ticket. Incidentally, at 65,
> medicare kicks in, and you won't need their insurance anyway.