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'[OT] World's first flight was - A Remarkable Gift'
1999\12\08@153358 by Russell McMahon

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   PICLIST &         BCC to a few others who MIGHT find it interesting
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Wagner said -
>We need to remember that in less than a single generation time, we went
>from the first documented airplane flight with Mr. Alberto Santos Dumont
>in Paris (by the way another Brazilian fellow) up to send robots to
>Mars.


Actually, the first powered flight was made by a New Zealander, Richard
Pearse *, but don't tell the American's - they think that they did it.

If you think the Wright brothers were clever (and they were) you should see
what one man working by himself without any support organisation, came up
with! He even designed and built a VTOL aircraft (but it didn't) with
variable motor angle for takeoff to horizontal transition.). The remains of
the original "1st flight" aircraft are displayed in Auckland's MOTAT museum.
They were dug from a river bank where they remained for many years after the
crash at the end of its first and only flight .

Like Orville & Wilbur, Richard had to build his own engine from scratch (it
appears to be a 4 cylinder flat-four (like a VW :-) engine but muuuch
smaller) from the appearance of the glass-cased remains).

His aircraft however was quite different from W&O's. If you copied it with
modern materials it would be undetectable in a field full of modern
microlights - single high wing, tricycle undercarriage (maybe 2 wheels and
skid?), pilot seated in midst below wing, very light weight pipe framework.
Overall very light and compact and sensible. There's also a full scale
replica flying forever (Ok, suspended) so you can examine its lines. Looks
good to me (but I'm not an aircraft expert).

International aviation experts will probably remain forever uncertain
whether RP's craft did actually fly (although the case looks very good to
me).
US aviation experts will forever remain absolutely certain that it didn't
:-)
IF it did, he probably beat the Wright Brothers. Dunno about Mr ASD.



Russell McMahon

* - he also used to make his own PICs out of melted sand, his airstrip was
cut out of raw gorse wasteland and was uphill both ways and he flew in
winter in 6 foot (1.828800000000 metre) snowdrifts and his hangar was a
cardboard box at the bottom of a lake (frozen, of course). I can't work out
where the barefoot in the snow without shoes (or feet) should be fitted in.

1999\12\08@154903 by William Chops Westfield

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>> * - he also used to make his own PICs out of melted sand

Yeah, and he had to program it with just ones and zeros, and zeros were
in short supply that winter...

BillW

1999\12\08@160125 by M. Adam Davis

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I remember the restrictions placed on the 'world's first flight' were
something along the lines of take off and land under its own power
(without crashing) and staying in the air for a certian period of time.
Every time I've seen a book list wilbur and orville wright as the first,
it also seems to mention these criteria.  Perhaps these other fellows in
Paris and New Zealand didn't quite fit these criteria?

But it's all a matter of pride anyway.  I'm just glad we have flight
now.

-Adam

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1999\12\08@160339 by Don McKenzie

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William Chops Westfield wrote:
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> >> * - he also used to make his own PICs out of melted sand
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> Yeah, and he had to program it with just ones and zeros, and zeros were
> in short supply that winter...

It was so cold, they used negative numbers, and had no need for zeros.
It is a N.Z. Engineers typical approach to insolvable problems.

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1999\12\08@165615 by Tony Nixon
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I feel like I'm on the 'worlds first flight' with this remote vehicle
project.

I've so far only managed to get the throttle servo interfaced to a
12C672 - soon to have some brains installed. It's going to be rather
tricky making this chip maintain a constant speed when it starts out
with 'L' plates each time. I've created an algorithm which seems to work
reasonable well in the lab, but the real world will be the test.

All the best Wagner.

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1999\12\08@200013 by Andy Kunz

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>Actually, the first powered flight was made by a New Zealander, Richard
>Pearse *, but don't tell the American's - they think that they did it.

And all this I thought it was Weiskopf (aka Whitehead).

Andy

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1999\12\08@221614 by John A. Craft

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<x-flowed>A pretty good ploy, Walter is seeing weather or not this first flight
thread is still active when his return.

Ok, so it probably will be.... :)

Jc.

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1999\12\09@143217 by l.allen

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> Actually, the first powered flight was made by a New Zealander, Richard
> Pearse *, but don't tell the American's - they think that they did it.
>
What I really like about Pearse (apart from being a fellow Kiwi) was
that in the true traditions of genius's such as Tesla.. he was a
nutter which is the only way he could come up with such highly
advanced concepts as tricycle undercarriage, elevators and
monoplane lifting surfaces back when the Wrights were still on the
ground.
Maybe the only way to come up with true innovations is to be
seriously unhinged?


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