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2011\09\06@174759 by John Gardner

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In an alternate universe (the same one with pressure testers)
there be torque wrenches.

Or in the Fortunate Isles, tommy bars - If you're in practice.

Takes all the suspense out of it, though.

2011\09\06@185623 by RussellMc

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> ... LUBRICATE first 3 thread with graphite-based lubricant.

> Please provide a reference to the suggestion below, to remove any oil.


Seems to be perhaps self referential.
No rudeness intended - but specifiying 3 threads explicity, strongly
suggests that lubricating all threads is bad, for whatever reason.


Russel

2011\09\07@004752 by Justin Richards

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> I have two used tires ( obtained at Mexican tire shop ) on the front of my Explorer.
> 1/4 inch of tread is left.  I was driving on a dirt road that had rocks on it from time to time.  The rocks were as large as 1 inch.
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Was the road freshly graded by any chance.  In our part of the world -
Western Australia when ever the dirt roads are freshly graded it seems
to have the effect of leaving many rocks with pointy ends up.  So the
first few passes, vehicles seem to have a higher chance of getting
tire damage.  After a few passes the rocks are all laying flat again
and damage tends to reduce.

Best tires I ever used on a Land Cruiser was light truck tires with
split rims. I never ever had a flat tire with these.  I had to remove
the wide rims as they only supported what they called recreational
tires with no strength in the walls and if I went any where near rocks
I was up for big bucks.

2011\09\07@014730 by David VanHorn

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On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Carl Denk <spam_OUTcdenkTakeThisOuTspamwindstream.net> wrote:
> If I remember correctly, the safety issue was mainly due to improper
> care (inflation). :~(  If you got 96K on a set of Explorer tires, you
> took very good care of them, which is as it should be. :) :)

I kept them inflated properly, other than that they were never rotated
from the day they rolled off the dealers lot.
Since they were wearing perfectly, I didn't see any reason to rotate.

2011\09\07@091821 by Carl Denk

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Agree on that, though it's uncommon for tires to wear that evenly, your driving and road conditions must be uncommon. I rotate 5 tires (all my vehicles have 5 identical tires and wheels which I bought a matching spare at new vehicle). Since I have all tires off twice a year for inspection, I take a thread depth gauge to the tires and rotate. The Bronco which has manual locking hubs with limited slip front differential is very fussy to front tire sizes. If the 2 tires differ by 1/32" in thread depth, the vehicle will pull to one side slightly at highway speeds. The Bronco went 65,000 on first set of Goodyear tires, and now has 40,000 miles on the same replacements with plenty of thread left.

On 9/7/2011 1:47 AM, David VanHorn wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 6:42 PM, Carl Denk<.....cdenkKILLspamspam@spam@windstream.net>  wrote:
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>> If I remember correctly, the safety issue was mainly due to improper
>> care (inflation). :~(  If you got 96K on a set of Explorer tires, you
>> took very good care of them, which is as it should be. :) :)
>>      
> I kept them inflated properly, other than that they were never rotated
> from the day they rolled off the dealers lot.
> Since they were wearing perfectly, I didn't see any reason to rotate.
>
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2011\09\07@095317 by alan.b.pearce

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> The Bronco went 65,000 on first set of Goodyear tires, and now has
> 40,000 miles on the same replacements with plenty of thread left.

I hope it's not down to the threads, I presume you mean tread depth ... ;)))




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2011\09\07@113426 by Carl Denk

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I normally replace the tires well before they get to the 2/32" minimum legal thread depth. At the moment, measuring one random tire, the Bronco thread depth is 8/32". :)

On 9/7/2011 9:47 AM, alan.b.pearcespamKILLspamstfc.ac.uk wrote:
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>> The Bronco went 65,000 on first set of Goodyear tires, and now has
>> 40,000 miles on the same replacements with plenty of thread left.
>>      
> I hope it's not down to the threads, I presume you mean tread depth ... ;)))
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2011\09\07@114722 by Tamas Rudnai

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Does tyre does not get punctured because worn off? I thought it may lose
grip and would run on water much easier than a deep threaded one, also may
suffer on increased temperature at a higher speed but puncture happens as
you run on something sharp, right?

Tamas




On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Carl Denk <.....cdenkKILLspamspam.....windstream.net> wrote:

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2011\09\07@122900 by Michael Watterson

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On 07/09/2011 16:47, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> puncture happens as
> you run on something sharp, right?
Caltraps

Not just effective against horses

2011\09\07@124137 by John Gardner

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...."Turn of the Nut" method is the
generally accepted method, where the nut is tightened to a snug
condition, and then given an extra specified rotation, depending on grip
length, bolt size, etc.

That's how it's done for many applications. Some torque wrenches
come with angular indicators built-in - There are also retrofit angle
indicators for torque wrenches, tommy bars (for calibrated arms :)
and the like.

Automotive apps typically head nuts/bolts, con rod fasteners.

Jac

2011\09\07@124512 by Carl Denk

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Yes, a tire (tyre) can be punctured more easily if the thread is worn. Depends on the size and shape of the puncturing object. The only tire I service on the road in the last 30 years were: a large nail must have just been setting pointed end upward, and went straight in. It was leaking air, but I was able to get to a service station with compressed air available. Without removing the tire/wheel, and not jacking up, was able to install a plug in the hole after removing the nail. That tire continued good service for many more miles The 2nd one, I was in a narrow one lane bridge construction area, vehicle ahead bumped a 6" diameter x 24" long wood log out under my Bronco tire. Instantly cut the tire and severely bent the aluminum wheel, a cost of $500 for new tire and wheel. :(

On 9/7/2011 11:47 AM, Tamas Rudnai wrote:
> Does tyre does not get punctured because worn off? I thought it may lose
> grip and would run on water much easier than a deep threaded one, also may
> suffer on increased temperature at a higher speed but puncture happens as
> you run on something sharp, right?
>
> Tamas

2011\09\08@055748 by Richard Prosser

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On 8 September 2011 21:43, cdb <colinspamspam_OUTbtech-online.co.uk> wrote:
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At one stage I was told it was best  not to use tyres straight from
the factory as they really needed a year or so to cure properly. Using
them too soon was safe, but the tyres wore down much more quickly.
This was from an employee of a tyre manufacturing company who was
selling me tyres at  "mates rates". as he got a big discount

RP

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