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'[OT] Intro to Bovines 101'
1998\02\27@121724 by John Shreffler

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Grew up in the country, heard about "polled", but assumed that
the horns were pulled, as a way a dehorning them.  Seemed
to me (at 8 years old) to be more humane than for example using
a chain saw or something.  I remember dwelling briefly on the
thought of how they did the pulling exactly, with a tractor or
something?  These are the kinds of things that made me
the twisted wretch I am today.  I won't get into the other thing,
so to speak, as you seemed to have solved the calf problem.

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1998\02\27@130541 by Randy Deane

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>From:   Roger Books [SMTP:spam_OUTbooksTakeThisOuTspamMAIL.STATE.FL.US]
>Sent:   Friday, February 27, 1998 10:13 AM
>To:     .....PICLISTKILLspamspam@spam@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject:        Re: OT: Intro to Bovines 101
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>(Grew up on a beef farm, we raised Polled Herefords.  Occasionally I
> helped the neighbors with their dairy cows.  I have the (dubious) brag
> of saying I reached into a cow up to my shoulders in order to turn a
> calf.)
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   Roger how fast was that calf you turned going when it hit that cow :-)

Randy Deane

1998\02\27@133410 by Roger Books

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> >-----Original Message-----
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> >Sent:   Friday, February 27, 1998 10:13 AM
> >To:     .....PICLISTKILLspamspam.....MITVMA.MIT.EDU
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> >(Grew up on a beef farm, we raised Polled Herefords.  Occasionally I
> > helped the neighbors with their dairy cows.  I have the (dubious) brag
> > of saying I reached into a cow up to my shoulders in order to turn a
> > calf.)
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>     Roger how fast was that calf you turned going when it hit that cow :-)

It was at a dead stop, and the cow was pretty unhappy about it.

Roger

1998\02\27@160558 by William Chops Westfield

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I think there's a technical distinction between "horns" and "antlers" as well.
I think cows have horns (those that have anything, that is...)

BillW

1998\02\27@170802 by Roger Books

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> I think there's a technical distinction between "horns" and "antlers" as
> well. I think cows have horns (those that have anything, that is...)

Antlers fall off and are renewed every year.  Horns are permanent.

Roger

1998\02\27@190621 by Andy Kunz

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>> Most "cows" (females) are antlerless, most bulls/steer are antlered.
>> Usually only the males are "de-horned" because of their aggressive
>> tendencies.
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>I actually caught Andy in a mistake, never thought that would happen.
>Wether a cow (or bull) grows antlers is breed dependant.  If the breed
>does not grow horns they are called "Polled".  I'm not sure why taking
>a poll removes your horns, but I am avoiding telephone polls because I'm
>not sure what else is removed.

Roger,

What was my mistake?  I knew the breed dependency.  A neighbor had a
problem with a bull who insisted on using his horns on farmhands.  The vet
removed them (it didn't make him friendlier, just less able to puncture ribs).

Thanks!

Andy


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1998\02\27@190625 by Andy Kunz

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At 12:54 PM 2/27/98 PST, you wrote:
>I think there's a technical distinction between "horns" and "antlers" as
well.
>I think cows have horns (those that have anything, that is...)

Look inside them - it's pretty obvious.

Andy

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