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'[OT] How to quote on PIC programming?'
1999\03\29@164749 by Holger Morgen

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Hi -

How about per program?

/holger

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1999\03\29@170344 by Mark Willis

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I have a problem with "per program" rates, in some circumstances:

 If you hit a job like one I did, where the customer plays both the
"pointy-haired boss from hell" -and- "the marketing droid from hell"
roles, where the feature set you have to implement isn't cast in stone
but rather in sand, and where each thing you code, results in more new
features being thrown into "the new (daily) spec that's running away
faster than you can code" <tm>;

 Then, you want to quote an HOURLY rate <G>

 (This was a Windows 3.x embedded system controller comms program which
started off dying at the drop of a hair, ANY hair, ended up pretty
stable - if only I'd been paid for all my work on that beast!)

 Per program, I can see if you are good at estimating, know the current
state of the code (do NOT, please please please, take the clients' word
for this!), and have both a spec written in corundum and a good
contract.

 If you're not good at estimating hours, maybe hire someone who is <G>

 Knowing your strengths and weaknesses is a good idea if you're doing
contracting.

 Mark

Holger Morgen wrote:
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1999\03\29@171416 by wagnerl

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Another good approach is to calculate how much the board (in case of
microcontroller board) would cost if entirely produced with discrete
logic, as 74HC..., then you calculate the economy it would generate to
be done using a microcontroller (and your software), then you estimate
one year production.  Your software cost can be in between 3% - 15% of
this one year savings, with a minimum and maximum values, lets say
$1,000 and $200,000.  Sometimes you don't work by hour, but by helping
your customer doing more profit, so he shares it with you.
Wagner.

1999\03\29@185214 by Holger Morgen

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Hi -

Not trying to make this [OT] too long, I DO want to make a point. Don't take
assignments with out clear
specs. It will hurt both you AND the boss...
(I realize, of cause, that this is not always possible·)

/holger


'[OT] How to quote on PIC programming?'
1999\04\19@134758 by Larry G. Nelson Sr.
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You can make good business from this. What you need to do is be up front
about this and provide a quotation / specification development phase which
is billable and usually by the hour. When this is signed off on you can
deliver a fixed price quote.


At 01:49 AM 3/30/99 +0200, you wrote:
>Hi -
>
>Not trying to make this [OT] too long, I DO want to make a point. Don't take
>assignments with out clear
>specs. It will hurt both you AND the boss...
>(I realize, of cause, that this is not always possible·)
>
>/holger
>
>
Larry G. Nelson Sr.
.....L.NelsonKILLspamspam.....ieee.org
http://www.ultranet.com/~nr

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