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'[OT] Cell Phone GPS?'
2006\05\17@204050 by Carey Fisher

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My cell phone, an LG VX4600 has a GPS function.
Now, how do I use this?  The phone has a place where you
can turn "Location" either "Location On" or "E911 Only".
I know (I think) what E911 is.  What about "Location On"?
IOW, *When I misplace my phone, how can I use the GPS function to find it?*

*Carey Fisher*

2006\05\17@215922 by Herbert Graf

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On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 20:40 -0400, Carey Fisher wrote:
> My cell phone, an LG VX4600 has a GPS function.
> Now, how do I use this?  The phone has a place where you
> can turn "Location" either "Location On" or "E911 Only".
> I know (I think) what E911 is.  What about "Location On"?
> IOW, *When I misplace my phone, how can I use the GPS function to find it?*

Generally the "GPS" in most phones is only a partial implementation. It
takes hardware on your providers end to put everything together to get a
position fix. The phone itself usually isn't capable of calculating a
fix.

Some service providers offer a "locate" service that for a fee will
locate your phone by GPS. Generally it's meant for parents keeping track
of kids.

The options you describe sound like your phone gives you the option to
disable GPS tracking for all purposes except 911 traces.

There are some newer phones (usually smart phones) that have a full GPS
implementation and are therefore of calculating the fix by themselves.

TTYL

2006\05\17@220134 by Herbert Graf

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On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 20:40 -0400, Carey Fisher wrote:
> My cell phone, an LG VX4600 has a GPS function.
> Now, how do I use this?  The phone has a place where you
> can turn "Location" either "Location On" or "E911 Only".
> I know (I think) what E911 is.  What about "Location On"?
> IOW, *When I misplace my phone, how can I use the GPS function to find it?*

Generally the "GPS" in most phones is only a partial implementation. It
takes hardware on your providers end to put everything together to get a
position fix. The phone itself usually isn't capable of calculating a
fix.

Some service providers offer a "locate" service that for a fee will
locate your phone by GPS. Generally it's meant for parents keeping track
of kids.

The options you describe sound like your phone gives you the option to
disable GPS tracking for all purposes except 911 traces.

There are some newer phones (usually smart phones) that have a full GPS
implementation and are therefore of calculating the fix by themselves.

TTYL

2006\05\17@223620 by Bob Axtell

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Herbert Graf wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 20:40 -0400, Carey Fisher wrote:
>  
>> My cell phone, an LG VX4600 has a GPS function.
>> Now, how do I use this?  The phone has a place where you
>> can turn "Location" either "Location On" or "E911 Only".
>> I know (I think) what E911 is.  What about "Location On"?
>> IOW, *When I misplace my phone, how can I use the GPS function to find it?*
>>    
>
>  
If you lose it, lose it ON. It won't triangulate OFF.

> Generally the "GPS" in most phones is only a partial implementation. It
> takes hardware on your providers end to put everything together to get a
> position fix. The phone itself usually isn't capable of calculating a
> fix.
>  
Yes.

> Some service providers offer a "locate" service that for a fee will
> locate your phone by GPS. Generally it's meant for parents keeping track
> of kids.
>
>  

Two cell towers can triangulate a phone very well; even though only one
cell tower passes traffic
(talk signals), a second one can through software be used to locate the
phone. The GPS function
normally offered is actually THIS location, offset by the
very-well-known GPS location of the
cell tower. The accuracy varies considerably, according to the angle
between the two towers.

These services are sold to police agencies as additional income to the
phone companies.

Notice that these services are not available where there is not a second
cell tower in range, so it only
works well in cities.

> The options you describe sound like your phone gives you the option to
> disable GPS tracking for all purposes except 911 traces.
>  
Normally, you will want to do this, because increased xmt power to meet
the needs of the distance
(second) cell tower means the battery will not last as long.

> There are some newer phones (usually smart phones) that have a full GPS
> implementation and are therefore of calculating the fix by themselves.
>  
satellite phones offer full GPS all the time.

--Bob

> TTYL
>
>  

2006\05\17@234112 by Mike Hord

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> My cell phone, an LG VX4600 has a GPS function.
> Now, how do I use this?  The phone has a place where you
> can turn "Location" either "Location On" or "E911 Only".
> I know (I think) what E911 is.  What about "Location On"?
> IOW, *When I misplace my phone, how can I use the GPS function to find it?*

I have lots to say about that, since I went through trying to figure
that out on my VX6000 a while back.

What I came up with was this:  it's not TRUE GPS, just triangulation
based on equipment at cell towers.  It's not terribly accurate, and
doesn't work in very many places.  You can access some of the features
of it (and some other fairly cool items) by pulling up the menu screen
and pressing...um, 0, I think.  Maybe * or #.  It'll ask for a
password (or maybe a service code; I forget what the exact wording
is), and the password is some character six times (again, either 0, *,
#, or maybe it was 9; it's been months).  This opens up a special menu
that has all kinds of stuff that Verizon and LG didn't want YOU
screwing around with.  Have fun!

Mike H.

2006\05\18@000623 by Herbert Graf

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On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 19:35 -0700, Bob Axtell wrote:
> > Some service providers offer a "locate" service that for a fee will
> > locate your phone by GPS. Generally it's meant for parents keeping track
> > of kids.
> >
> >  
>
> Two cell towers can triangulate a phone very well; even though only one
> cell tower passes traffic
> (talk signals), a second one can through software be used to locate the
> phone. The GPS function
> normally offered is actually THIS location,

Nope, what you are talking about is E911. It's benefits are it doesn't
require a GPS fix to get an "in the ballpark" location, so it works when
the phone is indoors.

The accuracy OTOH sucks.

Many newer phones sold in north america these days have REAL GPS
implementations, it's just that the "grunt work" of getting a fix is
handed off to the provider's hardware. As I mentioned the newest phones
DO have the full implementation.

TTYL

2006\05\18@000705 by Herbert Graf

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On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 22:41 -0500, Mike Hord wrote:
> > My cell phone, an LG VX4600 has a GPS function.
> > Now, how do I use this?  The phone has a place where you
> > can turn "Location" either "Location On" or "E911 Only".
> > I know (I think) what E911 is.  What about "Location On"?
> > IOW, *When I misplace my phone, how can I use the GPS function to find it?*
>
> I have lots to say about that, since I went through trying to figure
> that out on my VX6000 a while back.
>
> What I came up with was this:  it's not TRUE GPS, just triangulation
> based on equipment at cell towers.  

On that phone, perhaps. But "true GPS" IS present in many phones these
days.

TTYL

2006\05\18@001446 by Mike Hord

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> > What I came up with was this:  it's not TRUE GPS, just triangulation
> > based on equipment at cell towers.
>
> On that phone, perhaps. But "true GPS" IS present in many phones these
> days.
>
> TTYL

Ummm...Nextel, I think.  They are putting GPS into their newer phones.  I
don't think I've ever seen anyone else do it, but I haven't looked that closely.

It seems a logical extension.  Now I just need a PDA/Cell phone/MP3/
digital camera/GPS in one.  Could it be the size of a Razr, too? ;-)

Mike H.

2006\05\18@003255 by Robert Rolf

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Mike Hord wrote:

>>>What I came up with was this:  it's not TRUE GPS, just triangulation
>>>based on equipment at cell towers.
>>
>>On that phone, perhaps. But "true GPS" IS present in many phones these
>>days.

I'd sure like to find one. I've given up on Telus. ahd Bell, and Rogers
don't appear to have anything either. Seems the big push right now
is EVDO for high speed data. Streaming video to a cell phone??
The BLEEP cares?


> Ummm...Nextel, I think.  They are putting GPS into their newer phones.  I
> don't think I've ever seen anyone else do it, but I haven't looked that closely.
>
> It seems a logical extension.  Now I just need a PDA/Cell phone/MP3/
> digital camera/GPS in one.  Could it be the size of a Razr, too? ;-)

Ummmm, check back in about a year. I'm sure RIM will have something,
but it won't be Razr sized. That's about 3 years away.
Remember that companies only introduce new product once the current
sales plateau. Maximizes there return on investment. And where do those
millions of used cell phones go? Most to the dumpster. Some get recycled
in developing countries that are buying the previous generation cheap.

R


2006\05\18@015403 by Bob Axtell

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Mike Hord wrote:
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That's what I thought, but Robert may have updated info now.

--Bob
> Mike H.
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>  

2006\05\18@021153 by Carey Fisher

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All really good links and info everyone.  Should keep me busy for a while.
I still want to figure out how to locate my cell phone.  I seem to lose
it (my cellphone that is)
nearly every day for  a couple hours.
Carey


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2006\05\18@041434 by Alan B. Pearce

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>I still want to figure out how to locate my cell phone.
>I seem to lose it (my cellphone that is) nearly every
>day for  a couple hours.

Don't keep the battery so charged up, and then wait for the tamagochi bleeps
when it wants feeding ...

2006\05\18@044144 by Robert Rolf

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Alan B. Pearce wrote:

>>I still want to figure out how to locate my cell phone.
>>I seem to lose it (my cellphone that is) nearly every
>>day for  a couple hours.
>
>
> Don't keep the battery so charged up, and then wait for the tamagochi bleeps
> when it wants feeding ...

Or phone it.

My wife lost her phone, and couldn't find it anywhere.
Looked in her van/house/etc.
Phoned it and heard it ringing underneath the van beside
the front tire. It had bounced there after catching on the door
and pulling of her purse handle. Never would have thought look there.
R

2006\05\18@140632 by Peter

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On Wed, 17 May 2006, Carey Fisher wrote:

> My cell phone, an LG VX4600 has a GPS function.
> Now, how do I use this?  The phone has a place where you
> can turn "Location" either "Location On" or "E911 Only".
> I know (I think) what E911 is.  What about "Location On"?
> IOW, *When I misplace my phone, how can I use the GPS function to find it?*

Location on allows the network to know where you are all the time. E911
sends the location only if you make a 911 call.

To check this, travel to Bulgaria and make a prank 911 call (just
kidding).

Peter

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