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Peter L. Peres wrote: > Can I use tclsh as DOS shell while doing it ? ;v) Mike Singer wrote earlier: {Quote hidden}> > Once, I used FileSystemObject for converting approx > >25,000 pictures in one of Corel Draw formats to .wmf. > >I did it by launching Corel Draw from MS Excel using > >Automation. > > Then recursively moved through folders, making Corel > >convert current file and store it in a mirror directory > >structure. > > How about doing this sort of thing by a a small dos > >program? > Peter, my English is weak, I'm sorry . I'm happy for you saved your invaluable time using abbreviations. But what does it mean "tclsh" ? It drives me absolutely upset, when I can't solve the sort of puzzles, you proposed regularly. Thank You in advance. Mike. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

getting closer.... tclsh is just an environment for running tcl commands, not commands typically found in unix shells. TCL does do windows (mac too), and is in wide use. Check out http://www.scriptics.com/ if you're interested. Kevin Pic Dude wrote: > > TCL is a Unix (possibly Win nowadays) scripting/programming > language. Sort of along the lines of Perl, though > definitely not the same language. BTW, it's pronounced as > "tickle". TclSh is a version of the Unix shell with Tcl > built in. > > Cheers, > -Neil. > > {Original Message removed}

> Peter, my English is weak, I'm sorry . > I'm happy for you saved your invaluable time using > abbreviations. But what does it mean "tclsh" ? It drives me > absolutely upset, when I can't solve the sort of puzzles, you > proposed regularly. > Thank You in advance. Mike. Blame Kerningham & Ritchie :-) It's all to do with C & Unix and one of the primary objectives is to make the language, the Operating System and everything associated with it as terse & obfuscated (compact & confusing) as possible. Or so I'm told :-) RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

> TCL is a Unix (possibly Win nowadays) scripting/programming It is a scripting language, but not tied to any OS. > BTW, it's pronounced as "tickle". Actually it should be pronounced as "ti", the "ckle" stands for the Tk library that is often 'bundeled' with the Tk interpreter (for instance in wish). The combination is refered to as Tck/Tk. BTW Tk is just a C library and can be used in other environments than Tcl, see for instance Python / TkInter. Wouter van Ooijen -- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: http://www.voti.nl Jal compiler, Wisp programmer, WLoader bootloader, PICs kopen -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

> > TCL is a Unix (possibly Win nowadays) scripting/programming > > It is a scripting language, but not tied to any OS. > > > BTW, it's pronounced as "tickle". > > Actually it should be pronounced as "ti", the "ckle" stands for the Tk > library that is often 'bundeled' with the Tk interpreter (for instance in > wish). The combination is refered to as Tck/Tk. BTW Tk is just a C library > and can be used in other environments than Tcl, see for instance Python / > TkInter. I was under the impression that the Tcl (Tool Command Language) interpreter often had the Tk library bundled with it, producing Tcl/Tk. And that Tcl was pronounced "tickle" because it looks like it should be. Could be wrong, I'll check my book tonight. --Brendan -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Pic Dude wrote: >TCL is a Unix (possibly Win nowadays) scripting/programming >language. Sort of along the lines of Perl, though >definitely not the same language. BTW, it's pronounced as >"tickle". TclSh is a version of the Unix shell with Tcl >built in. No tclsh is a shell that uses the tcl programming language (the first half of tcl/tk == tickle). Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Russell McMahon wrote: >> Peter, my English is weak, I'm sorry . >> I'm happy for you saved your invaluable time using >> abbreviations. But what does it mean "tclsh" ? It drives me >> absolutely upset, when I can't solve the sort of puzzles, you >> proposed regularly. >> Thank You in advance. Mike. > >Blame Kerningham & Ritchie :-) >It's all to do with C & Unix and one of the primary objectives is to make >the language, the Operating System and everything associated with it as >terse & obfuscated (compact & confusing) as possible. Or so I'm told :-) No, it is meant to save money by not having people buy new keyboards every month. Try typing: The_little_program_that_is_not_that_other_big_program_that_shows_date_and_time\ _but_does_not_change_it now try typing: date When you have 2000+ executable commands (like most average Unix installations have), then you start running out of letters fast. So you have things like cut cat top lpr pr then you grow up to initials and have troff and then you run out of everything and you start calling things tclsh. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

The puzzle could have been solved by Google and other search engines. It is not an abbreviation. It is the name of a shell (like command.com) that uses a neat programming language that tends to be QUITE powerful AND cross platform (same code runs on several Unices and on W32). I think that the downloads are here (even if the company changed hands): http://devel.scriptics.com I am glad I could help you out to find this resource, since you could seem to have misunderstood it for a puzzle. And, in general, abbreviations have a trailing dot as in abbrev. Too bad if it's at the end of the sentence. Then you need to guess. Peter PS: Also look up bash.exe . Also not an abbrev. ;-) On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Mike Singer wrote: {Quote hidden}>Peter L. Peres wrote: >> Can I use tclsh as DOS shell while doing it ? ;v) > >Mike Singer wrote earlier: >> > Once, I used FileSystemObject for converting approx >> >25,000 pictures in one of Corel Draw formats to .wmf. >> >I did it by launching Corel Draw from MS Excel using >> >Automation. >> > Then recursively moved through folders, making Corel >> >convert current file and store it in a mirror directory >> >structure. >> > How about doing this sort of thing by a a small dos >> >program? >> > > Peter, my English is weak, I'm sorry . >I'm happy for you saved your invaluable time using >abbreviations. But what does it mean "tclsh" ? It drives me >absolutely upset, when I can't solve the sort of puzzles, you >proposed regularly. > Thank You in advance. Mike. > >-- >http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics >(like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Brendan Moran wrote: >> > TCL is a Unix (possibly Win nowadays) scripting/programming >> >> It is a scripting language, but not tied to any OS. >> >> > BTW, it's pronounced as "tickle". >> >> Actually it should be pronounced as "ti", the "ckle" stands for the Tk >> library that is often 'bundeled' with the Tk interpreter (for instance in >> wish). The combination is refered to as Tck/Tk. BTW Tk is just a C library >> and can be used in other environments than Tcl, see for instance Python / >> TkInter. > >I was under the impression that the Tcl (Tool Command Language) interpreter >often had the Tk library bundled with it, producing Tcl/Tk. And that Tcl >was pronounced "tickle" because it looks like it should be. > >Could be wrong, I'll check my book tonight. Usually there are two programs in a tickle distribution. One is tclsh and the other is wish. tclsh does the tcl language. wish does everything tclsh does plus it has the tk (toolkit) built in so it produces GUIs besides being a proper tcl interpreter. Now I remembered what tcl stands for. tcl = tool control language (or command l.). tk = toolkit, as in GUI toolkit. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

Peter L. Peres wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Pic Dude wrote: > > >>TCL is a Unix (possibly Win nowadays) scripting/programming >>language. Sort of along the lines of Perl, though >>definitely not the same language. BTW, it's pronounced as >>"tickle". TclSh is a version of the Unix shell with Tcl >>built in. > > > No tclsh is a shell that uses the tcl programming language (the first half > of tcl/tk == tickle). Does that mean that tclsh is promounced "ticklish"? -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

Thank you, Peter. Besides being non-fluent in English, I have another weakness: I'm lazy a little. I would rather prefer to black-list postings needed to be Googled or Altavistad in each word. It would give me more time for reading clean and informative messages, posted by Olin Lathrop, Bob Ammerman and others. Any ideas how can I do it? Should I develop a small VBA program in MS Outlook? Mike. Peter L. Peres wrote: {Quote hidden}> > The puzzle could have been solved by Google and other search > engines. It > is not an abbreviation. It is the name of a shell (like > command.com) that > uses a neat programming language that tends to be QUITE > powerful AND cross > platform (same code runs on several Unices and on W32). I > think that the > downloads are here (even if the company changed hands): > > http://devel.scriptics.com > > I am glad I could help you out to find this resource, since > you could seem > to have misunderstood it for a puzzle. And, in general, > abbreviations have > a trailing dot as in abbrev. Too bad if it's at the end of > the sentence. > Then you need to guess. > > > > >Mike Singer wrote earlier: > > Peter, my English is weak, I'm sorry . > >I'm happy for you saved your invaluable time using > >abbreviations. But what does it mean "tclsh" ? It drives me > >absolutely upset, when I can't solve the sort of puzzles, you > >proposed regularly. > > Thank You in advance. Mike. > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Mike Singer wrote: > Thank you, Peter. > Besides being non-fluent in English, I have another >weakness: I'm lazy a little. I would rather prefer to >black-list postings needed to be Googled or >Altavistad in each word. It would give me more time >for reading clean and informative messages, posted >by Olin Lathrop, Bob Ammerman and others. > Any ideas how can I do it? Should I develop a small >VBA program in MS Outlook? Since you are an expert on the matter of VBA and already know where to look (Google) I think that you have an edge on me here. Let us know how it works out. Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

> On Fri, 28 Jun 2002, Mike Singer wrote: > > > Thank you, Peter. > > Besides being non-fluent in English, I have another > >weakness: I'm lazy a little. I would rather prefer to > >black-list postings needed to be Googled or > >Altavistad in each word. It would give me more time > >for reading clean and informative messages, Hmmmm. So you are going to create an email filter based on unknown words?? So ANY email that mentions any part number or new product will be deleted? Maybe that needs a bit more thought. Or will you use a positive filter, where you first install ALL the words you *don't* know? Sorry just teasing! ;o) -Roman -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.