Post by thread:[OT]: GCC

Anybody know of a supported port of GCC for a '186? I need to replace this M$ crap with something that will do what I need in an embedded system. Thanks. Andy -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

I am assuming you are using VC 1.52c when you refer to M$ crap, since that is the last 16-bit compiler from MS. Keep in mind that you are working with a product that is several years old now. (Note: I am not an MS fan!). I have had very good luck using Borland C/C++ 5.02 in 16-bit x86 embedded work. This is also no longer a 'current' product, but it is much better than the MS, IMHO. Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (high performance, high function, low-level software) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

My goal is to compile an application on a Athlon that will run on an embedded 80186 (Am186 actually). The free Turbo C (http://community.borland.com/museum/) has already been suggested (by moi) thanks. Andy "Dipperstein, Michael" <spam_OUTmdippersTakeThisOuTharris.com> on 07/10/2000 01:23:52 PM To: Andrew Kunz/TDI_NOTES@TDI_NOTES cc: Subject: RE: [OT]: GCC I'm not exactly clear on what your goal is, but DJGPP is a GCC port that will run on an MS-DOS machine. You can get it at http://www.delorie.com/. -Mike {Original Message removed}

The free Turbo C is good, the BC 5.02 is quite a bit better. Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (high performance, high function, low-level software) ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Kunz <.....akunzKILLspam@spam@TDIPOWER.COM> To: <PICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 1:43 PM Subject: Re: [OT]: GCC > My goal is to compile an application on a Athlon that will run on an embedded {Quote hidden}> 80186 (Am186 actually). > > The free Turbo C (http://community.borland.com/museum/) has already been > suggested (by moi) thanks. > > Andy > > > > > > > > > > > "Dipperstein, Michael" <.....mdippersKILLspam.....harris.com> on 07/10/2000 01:23:52 PM > > > > > > > > > To: Andrew Kunz/TDI_NOTES@TDI_NOTES > > cc: > > > > Subject: RE: [OT]: GCC > > > > > > > > > I'm not exactly clear on what your goal is, but DJGPP is a GCC port that will > run on an MS-DOS machine. You can get it at http://www.delorie.com/. > > -Mike > {Original Message removed}

Four years ago I used a product called Paradigm Locate, it took the output of several DOS compilers and added some run-time stuff to make it embeddable. They have since packaged the software in with a bunch of stuff and called it paradigm C++. Check http://www.devtools.com/ for the list of all the stuff that Paradigm offers. I think that they have something that will get you where you need to go. -Mike {Original Message removed}

I too have used Paradigm Locate. It was (is) the enviromnemt of choice for the Tern single board computers. It supplies all the "glue" that you need to use either Borland or MS C++ compilers without an operating system. It works well, i.e. invisibly. Jim Ham At 11:04 AM 7/10/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Four years ago I used a product called Paradigm Locate, it took the output of >several DOS compilers and added some run-time stuff to make it embeddable. They >have since packaged the software in with a bunch of stuff and called it paradigm >C++. Check http://www.devtools.com/ for the list of all the stuff that Paradigm >offers. I think that they have something that will get you where you need to >go. > >-Mike > >{Original Message removed}

Hi, I can recommend the C compiler of Mr. Dunfield unconditionally. It is cheap, and it does exactly, what it promises. Check http://www.dunfield.com Regards, Imre On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Bob Ammerman wrote: {Quote hidden}> I am assuming you are using VC 1.52c when you refer to M$ crap, since that > is the last 16-bit compiler from MS. > > Keep in mind that you are working with a product that is several years old > now. (Note: I am not an MS fan!). > > I have had very good luck using Borland C/C++ 5.02 in 16-bit x86 embedded > work. This is also no longer a 'current' product, but it is much better than > the MS, IMHO. > > Bob Ammerman > RAm Systems > (high performance, high function, low-level software) > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

imho go with Borland (Inprise). ROMming tools and task swapper (by Dr. Ting) available with source on Simtel. TC 2.0x does fine (?) ANSI C from 8086 up. It can target 8086/88 or 80186/88. If you get the Turbo assembler too you will be set up very well imho. Unlike M$ the Borland IDE tool feel under MSDOS is great. Your problems remind me of when I wrote a boot sector under MASM6.11 and I ended up setting up as COM and shifting string ofsets and other things manually in DS's because there is no way to tell MASM to compile absolute code at offset 0 ;-(. Afaik there is no GCC port for <anything> below i386 because it makes too many assumptions about int = 32bit, however, I suspect that some work to make a GCC cross compiler with 88 target was done. Look for Linux on 8088 project(s). Peter -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Peter L. Peres wrote: <snip> > Afaik there is no GCC port for <anything> below i386 because it makes too > many assumptions about int = 32bit, however, I suspect that some work to > make a GCC cross compiler with 88 target was done. Look for Linux on 8088 > project(s). > > Peter (I like Borland's products too!) ELKS hangs out 'round ftp://ftp.ecs.soton.ac.uk/pub/elks/, see also ; there's a mailing list (Subscribe to ELKS by sending "Subscribe elks user@isp" in the message body, to <EraseMEmajordomospam_OUTTakeThisOuTvision.doa.org>. DO replace user@isp with your e-mail address, you already knew that <G> They check for forged subscribes so expect a confirming e-mail back from the server there. "Someone (possibly you) has requested that your email address be added to or deleted from the mailing list "elksspam_OUTvision.doa.org".") Mark -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.

Ack! On looking at my post, obviously http://linux.mit.edu/ (the missing URL there) got edited out - I must've hit Delete by accident, sorry! It's seemingly down right now. Mark -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.