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2000\07\10@131727 by Andrew Kunz

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Anybody know of a supported port of GCC for a '186?

I need to replace this M$ crap with something that will do what I need in an
embedded system.

Thanks.

Andy

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2000\07\10@134050 by Bob Ammerman

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I am assuming you are using VC 1.52c when you refer to M$ crap, since that
is the last 16-bit compiler from MS.

Keep in mind that you are working with a product that is several years old
now. (Note: I am not an MS fan!).

I have had very good luck using Borland C/C++ 5.02 in 16-bit x86 embedded
work. This is also no longer a 'current' product, but it is much better than
the MS, IMHO.

Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems
(high performance, high function, low-level software)

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2000\07\10@134303 by Andrew Kunz

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My goal is to compile an application on a Athlon that will run on an embedded
80186 (Am186 actually).

The free Turbo C (http://community.borland.com/museum/) has already been
suggested (by moi) thanks.

Andy










"Dipperstein, Michael" <spam_OUTmdippersTakeThisOuTspamharris.com> on 07/10/2000 01:23:52 PM








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I'm not exactly clear on what your goal is, but DJGPP is a GCC port that will
run on an MS-DOS machine.  You can get it at http://www.delorie.com/.

-Mike
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2000\07\10@135123 by Bob Ammerman

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The free Turbo C is good, the BC 5.02 is quite a bit better.

Bob Ammerman
RAm Systems
(high performance, high function, low-level software)


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Subject: Re: [OT]: GCC


> My goal is to compile an application on a Athlon that will run on an
embedded
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> run on an MS-DOS machine.  You can get it at http://www.delorie.com/.
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> -Mike
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2000\07\10@140834 by Dipperstein, Michael
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Four years ago I used a product called Paradigm Locate, it took the output of
several DOS compilers and added some run-time stuff to make it embeddable.  They
have since packaged the software in with a bunch of stuff and called it paradigm
C++.  Check http://www.devtools.com/ for the list of all the stuff that Paradigm
offers.  I think that they have something that will get you where you need to
go.

-Mike

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2000\07\10@174412 by Jim Ham

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I too have used Paradigm Locate. It was (is) the enviromnemt of choice for
the Tern single board computers. It supplies all the "glue" that you need
to use either Borland or MS C++ compilers without an operating system. It
works well, i.e. invisibly.

Jim Ham

At 11:04 AM 7/10/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>Four years ago I used a product called Paradigm Locate, it took the output of
>several DOS compilers and added some run-time stuff to make it embeddable.
They
>have since packaged the software in with a bunch of stuff and called it
paradigm
>C++.  Check http://www.devtools.com/ for the list of all the stuff that
Paradigm
>offers.  I think that they have something that will get you where you need to
>go.
>
>-Mike
>
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2000\07\11@024005 by Dr. Imre Bartfai

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Hi,
I can recommend the C compiler of Mr. Dunfield unconditionally. It is
cheap, and it does exactly, what it promises. Check http://www.dunfield.com
Regards,
Imre


On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, Bob Ammerman wrote:

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2000\07\11@142700 by Peter L. Peres

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imho go with Borland (Inprise). ROMming tools and task swapper (by Dr.
Ting) available with source on Simtel. TC 2.0x does fine (?) ANSI C from
8086 up. It can target 8086/88 or 80186/88. If you get the Turbo assembler
too you will be set up very well imho. Unlike M$ the Borland IDE tool feel
under MSDOS is great. Your problems remind me of when I wrote a boot
sector under MASM6.11 and I ended up setting up as COM and shifting string
ofsets and other things manually in DS's because there is no way to tell
MASM to compile absolute code at offset 0 ;-(.

Afaik there is no GCC port for <anything> below i386 because it makes too
many assumptions about int = 32bit, however, I suspect that some work to
make a GCC cross compiler with 88 target was done. Look for Linux on 8088
project(s).

Peter

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2000\07\11@184746 by Mark Willis

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Peter L. Peres wrote:
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> Afaik there is no GCC port for <anything> below i386 because it makes too
> many assumptions about int = 32bit, however, I suspect that some work to
> make a GCC cross compiler with 88 target was done. Look for Linux on 8088
> project(s).
>
> Peter

(I like Borland's products too!)

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 Mark

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2000\07\11@190454 by Mark Willis

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Ack!  On looking at my post, obviously http://linux.mit.edu/ (the
missing URL there) got edited out - I must've hit Delete by accident,
sorry!

It's seemingly down right now.

 Mark

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