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2008\02\24@234952 by Brooke Clarke

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Hi:

I didn't expect a SMPS inside a flashlight lamp, but that's what the data
shows.  How did they do it?
http://www.prc68.com/I/LED.shtml#E10LED

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2008\02\25@075546 by Enki

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       http://www.emanator.demon.co.uk/bigclive/joule.htm


On 24 Feb 2008 at 20:49, Brooke Clarke wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I didn't expect a SMPS inside a flashlight lamp, but that's what the data
> shows.  How did they do it?
> http://www.prc68.com/I/LED.shtml#E10LED
>
> --
> Have Fun,
> Brooke Clarke

2008\02\25@080843 by olin piclist

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Brooke Clarke wrote:
> I didn't expect a SMPS inside a flashlight lamp, but that's what the
> data shows.  How did they do it?
> http://www.prc68.com/I/LED.shtml#E10LED

Your web page quotes something I must have written several years ago, and
links to a file that I put on the internet only temporarily (it even has
"temp" in its pathname) and has long since been deleted.  I have a much more
recent and complete writeup of a LED headlamp at
http://www.embedinc.com/pic/knli.


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2008\02\25@081500 by Martin

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Brooke Clarke wrote:
> Hi:
>
> I didn't expect a SMPS inside a flashlight lamp, but that's what the data
> shows.  How did they do it?
> http://www.prc68.com/I/LED.shtml#E10LED
>
>  
You can tell if there is a switching supply by measuring the current
with an oscilloscope. It may have visible current spikes. How much does
it cost? Where did you get it?
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Martin

2008\02\25@091911 by David VanHorn
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> You can tell if there is a switching supply by measuring the current
> with an oscilloscope. It may have visible current spikes. How much does
> it cost? Where did you get it?

More certain indication, when the voltage goes up, the current goes down.

2008\02\26@131636 by Brooke Clarke

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Hi Enki:
I think something like this is the answer.  The specs say 2.8 to 12 volt
operation (notice not 1.5 V) and 1 Watt power, so it's not really a joule theif.

Hi Martin:
No Scope needed.  Just look at the bench supply meters as the voltage is
changed.  Data at: http://www.prc68.com/I/LED.shtml#E10LED
shows constant 1 watt power load.  $8 Superbrightleds.com  T10-WHP

Hi Olin:
Thanks for the new link, I've updated my page.

Hi David VanHorn:
Yes.  I think of Switching Mode Power Supplies as transformers for DC.

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Have Fun,

Brooke Clarke
http://www.prc68.com/P/Prod.html  Products I make and sell
http://www.prc68.com/Alpha.shtml  All my web pages listed based on html name
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.precisionclock.com
http://www.prc68.com/I/WebCam2.shtml 24/7 Sky-Weather-Astronomy Web Cam

2008\02\26@150334 by olin piclist

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Brooke Clarke wrote:
> Hi Olin:
> Thanks for the new link, I've updated my page.

I can see it changed, but the links to my site are still messed up, at least
assuming you meant your page at http://www.prc68.com/I/LED.shtml.  The link
for
"Olin Lathrop's early prototype circuit" is dead.  That was something I put
up temporarily for the purpose of the post you quote.  Later you replaced
what I wrote with "KnurdLight PIC Example Project" and pointed it to a live
link, but that is not what the text is referring to.  Please don't change
someone's words without making it clear you changed them.  Your misquote now
makes some of my remaining text wrong, since the new link doesn't refer to
any schematic with a 16F628 in it.

Again, that text referred to stuff I put on the web temporarily just until
people had a chance to read the post.  Those the things referred to by that
text are gone.  The KnurdLight link (http://www.embedinc.com/pic/knli) is a
current (and not temporary) page that talks about the same general topic,
but is not the schematic the other text refers to.

You are probably best off writing your own short description and referring
to the http://www.embedinc.com/pic/knli link where a detailed writeup,
schematic, and other documetation of one of my LED headlamps can be found.


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2008\02\27@080343 by Martin

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Brooke Clarke wrote:
> Hi Enki:
> I think something like this is the answer.  The specs say 2.8 to 12 volt
> operation (notice not 1.5 V) and 1 Watt power, so it's not really a joule theif.
>
> Hi Martin:
> No Scope needed.  Just look at the bench supply meters as the voltage is
> changed.  Data at: http://www.prc68.com/I/LED.shtml#E10LED
> shows constant 1 watt power load.  $8 Superbrightleds.com  T10-WHP
>
> Hi Olin:
> Thanks for the new link, I've updated my page.
>
> Hi David VanHorn:
> Yes.  I think of Switching Mode Power Supplies as transformers for DC.
>
>  
Brooke,
You posted numbers showing relatively constant power anyway, then asked
"what's going on?" The oscilloscope was merely a suggestion.
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Martin

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