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Alberta Printed Circuits: http://www.apcircuits.com Always had good product and no problems with them Cheers, Bob On Wed, 28 Mar 2001, Shawn Yates wrote: {Quote hidden}> OK, please don't totaly bombard me with 1000's of answers. > > I need some leads for lov volume, low cost, quick turn prototypes. > > All my boards are only 2 sided and are very far from dense or complicated. > > Thanks, > > Shawn > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

part 1 1184 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset=us-ascii (decoded 7bit) Ok, this is fine for the USA (state side) BUT what are the best options for us in Australia (OZ). Any suggestions. Low quantities, primarily prototype work. "Eisermann, Phil [Ridg/CO]" wrote: {Quote hidden}> > I have to second these guys. I've had them do a number of quick turn > prototypes, and have never had a problem. I've had stuff down to 8 mil > pad-pad made by them without any problems. Cheap (stick to their 'free drill > sizes' though) and fast. > > Alberta Printed Circuits: > > http://www.apcircuits.com > > Always had good product and no problems with them > > Cheers, > > Bob > Nino. -- ------------------------------------------------------ | Antonio (Nino) L. Benci | | Professional Officer, Electronic Services | | School of Physics & Materials Engineering | | Monash University | | email: spam_OUTnino.benciTakeThisOuTspme.monash.edu | | T: 61 3 9905 3649. F: 61 3 9905 3637 | | M: 0414 924 833 | ------------------------------------------------------ part 2 586 bytes content-type:text/x-vcard; name=Nino.Benci.vcf; charset=us-ascii (decoded 7bit) begin:vcard n:Benci;Antonio L tel;cell:0414 924 833 tel;fax:+61 3 9905 3637 tel;home:0414 924 833 tel;work:+61 3 9905 3649 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.physics.monash.edu.au/~ninob org:Monash University;School of Physics & Materials Engineering version:2.1 email;internet:.....Nino.BenciKILLspam@spam@spme.monash.edu title:Professional Officer, Electronic Services adr;quoted-printable:;;PO Box 27=0D=0ASchool of Physics and Materials Engineering=0D=0AMonash University;Monash University;VIC;3800;Australia x-mozilla-cpt:;10672 fn:Antonio L Benci end:vcard part 3 154 bytes -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Antonio L Benci wrote: > > Ok, this is fine for the USA (state side) BUT what are the best options > for us in Australia (OZ). Any suggestions. Low quantities, primarily > prototype work. http://www.becman.com/BEC.htm 3 day turn around to your door. -- Best regards Tony mICro's http://www.picnpoke.com salesKILLspampicnpoke.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

>> Ok, this is fine for the USA (state side) BUT what are the best options >> for us in Australia (OZ). Any suggestions. Low quantities, primarily >> prototype work. > >http://www.becman.com/BEC.htm >3 day turn around to your door. I just sent my first "real" board to them this morning.. double sided, solder mask, gold plated edge connector.. should be about 5 Days.. I'll let you know how it goes. They work by "Panels" and have two sizes. The will repeat the board on the panel. If you want to get more then one board made you have to place them all in the one file and they will repeat that. Also If you don't need plate through or solder masks, "Parkyn Electronic Services" (in Brisbane as well) will mill a board for you. I got a double sided one done there, 12mil/12mil is about the limit. Quite nice result and reasonable price. Cheers, Ash. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

We use Fastrack all the time. (Brisbane) I just send them the files and tell them how many I need of each. They then work out how many panels to do. They are done as "prototype' runs. Cost is AU$400 (d/s, pth, overlay & solder masks) for the first one and AU$50 per panel thereafter. If over 2-3 panels, they will do them as production runs. (different rates) Let me know if you need contact details for them. Antonio wrote: {Quote hidden}>Ok, this is fine for the USA (state side) BUT what are the best options >for us in Australia (OZ). Any suggestions. Low quantities, primarily >prototype work. > >"Eisermann, Phil [Ridg/CO]" wrote: > > > > I have to second these guys. I've had them do a number of quick turn > > prototypes, and have never had a problem. I've had stuff down to 8 mil > > pad-pad made by them without any problems. Cheap (stick to their 'free > drill > > sizes' though) and fast. > > > > Alberta Printed Circuits: > > > > http://www.apcircuits.com > > > > Always had good product and no problems with them -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

part 1 946 bytes content-type:text/plain; charset=us-ascii (decoded 7bit) Ta for the info... Tony Nixon wrote: {Quote hidden}> > Antonio L Benci wrote: > > > > Ok, this is fine for the USA (state side) BUT what are the best options > > for us in Australia (OZ). Any suggestions. Low quantities, primarily > > prototype work. > > http://www.becman.com/BEC.htm > > 3 day turn around to your door. > > -- > Best regards > > Tony > Nino. -- ------------------------------------------------------ | Antonio (Nino) L. Benci | | Professional Officer, Electronic Services | | School of Physics & Materials Engineering | | Monash University | | email: .....nino.benciKILLspam.....spme.monash.edu | | T: 61 3 9905 3649. F: 61 3 9905 3637 | | M: 0414 924 833 | ------------------------------------------------------ part 2 586 bytes content-type:text/x-vcard; name=Nino.Benci.vcf; charset=us-ascii (decoded 7bit) begin:vcard n:Benci;Antonio L tel;cell:0414 924 833 tel;fax:+61 3 9905 3637 tel;home:0414 924 833 tel;work:+61 3 9905 3649 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.physics.monash.edu.au/~ninob org:Monash University;School of Physics & Materials Engineering version:2.1 email;internet:EraseMENino.Bencispam_OUTTakeThisOuTspme.monash.edu title:Professional Officer, Electronic Services adr;quoted-printable:;;PO Box 27=0D=0ASchool of Physics and Materials Engineering=0D=0AMonash University;Monash University;VIC;3800;Australia x-mozilla-cpt:;10672 fn:Antonio L Benci end:vcard part 3 154 bytes -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

At 12:32 PM 3/29/01 +1000, you wrote: >We use Fastrack all the time. (Brisbane) I just send them the >files and tell them how many I need of each. They then work >out how many panels to do. They are done as "prototype' runs. >Cost is AU$400 (d/s, pth, overlay & solder masks) for the first >one and AU$50 per panel thereafter. If over 2-3 panels, they will >do them as production runs. (different rates) Let me know if you >need contact details for them. How big is their panel size? Best regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" speffspam_OUTinterlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com Contributions invited->The AVR-gcc FAQ is at: http://www.bluecollarlinux.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

At 09:39 PM 28/03/01 -0500, you wrote: > >We use Fastrack all the time. (Brisbane) I just send them the > >files and tell them how many I need of each. They then work > >out how many panels to do. They are done as "prototype' runs. > >Cost is AU$400 (d/s, pth, overlay & solder masks) for the first > >one and AU$50 per panel thereafter. If over 2-3 panels, they will > >do them as production runs. (different rates) Let me know if you > >need contact details for them. > >How big is their panel size? Sorry, can't recall offhand - maybe 14" x 16" - only guessing. Regards... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

I had them make one set of 8 (very easy) boards and one of them was faulty (a copper blob that shorted a couple of traces). Luckily I only actually needed 7of the boards, and the refunded me the cost of the last set of 2. Bob Ammerman RAm Systems (contract development of high performance, high function, low-level software) ----- Original Message ----- From: Eisermann, Phil [Ridg/CO] <@spam@peisermaKILLspamRIDGID.COM> To: <KILLspamPICLISTKILLspamMITVMA.MIT.EDU> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [EE]:Proto Boards > I have to second these guys. I've had them do a number of quick turn > prototypes, and have never had a problem. I've had stuff down to 8 mil > pad-pad made by them without any problems. Cheap (stick to their 'free drill > sizes' though) and fast. > > {Original Message removed}

Spehro Pefhany wrote: > > How big is their panel size? > > Best regards, At BEC 10.6" X 16.6" = $Aus257.00 per panel + $Aus66.00 each after 14.6" X 16.6" = $Aus302.50 per panel + $Aus85.80 each after -- Best regards Tony mICro's http://www.picnpoke.com RemoveMEsalesTakeThisOuTpicnpoke.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads

Bob Ammerman wrote: >I had them make one set of 8 (very easy) boards and one of them was faulty >(a copper blob that shorted a couple of traces). Luckily I only actually >needed 7of the boards, and the refunded me the cost of the last set of 2. > I have used apcircuits.com for many different 2 layer proto designs, and have had only a couple of instances of copper blobs/etc. They do charge ~1 cent/hit for hole densities beyond 24 holes/sq.in., and unfortunately most of my pcbs go about 50 holes/sq.in. Otherwise, a pretty good deal and very fast turn around. Rich Ottosen recommended Advanced Circuits, http://www.4pcb.com, here in Colorado to me, but I haven't tried them yet. - dan michaels http://www.oricomtech.com ====================== -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

Are there any PCB manufacturers that will do cheaper in return for "slower"? (Still at very-low volumes.) I'm getting old and slow, so it's no big deal if turnaround is between one to two weeks instead of 2-3 days, but I'd like to pay less... BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics

I've also used Advanced Circuits. They've always given me good boards, on time. If I need soldermask or silkscreen, I use them. They charge considerably more than APC, but that's because APC has no soldermask and no silkscreen. For prototypes, one-offs, and personal stuff, I use APC. For limited runs, I use Advanced Circuits. It all depends on what you need. {Original Message removed}

>OK, please don't totaly bombard me with 1000's of answers. > >I need some leads for lov volume, low cost, quick turn prototypes. > >All my boards are only 2 sided and are very far from dense or complicated. > >Thanks, > >Shawn we may help you.. Tsvetan --- PCB prototypes for $26 at http://run.to/pcb -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics