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2001\10\24@023714 by Quentin

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I need to take a snap shot of a production line once or twice a sec.
(video inspection).
I am looking for a simple system that will take the shot and display it
on a monitor.
(the rate is PIC controlled, of course :) )
Now I've been searching and all I find is Frame grabbers.
First problem, they are expensive, second, they need a PC (PCI bus and
software control). I think using a PC in this case is a bit of a
overkill (beside adding problems of boot up and crashing).
Any other ideas?

Quentin

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2001\10\24@031554 by Jonathan Luthje

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Quentin,
   If you just want to look at a production line on a monitor, why do you
need any sort of interface at all? Why not just use a camera and a CCTV
monitor?

Regards,


Jonathan Luthje

> I need to take a snap shot of a production line once or twice a sec.
> (video inspection).
> I am looking for a simple system that will take the shot and display it
> on a monitor.

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2001\10\24@033933 by Arpit

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On Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:34:36 +0200, you wrote:

>I need to take a snap shot of a production line once or twice a sec.
>(video inspection).
>I am looking for a simple system that will take the shot and display it
>on a monitor.
>(the rate is PIC controlled, of course :) )
>Now I've been searching and all I find is Frame grabbers.
>First problem, they are expensive, second, they need a PC (PCI bus and
>software control). I think using a PC in this case is a bit of a
>overkill (beside adding problems of boot up and crashing).
>Any other ideas?
>
>Quentin


Use a tv?

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2001\10\24@044011 by Quentin

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Video inspection is when you take snap shots at a certain rate so you
can compare the shots for consistency. So I must be able to store and
display one shot continuously until the next one. It's not a streaming
video.

Quentin


Jonathan Luthje wrote:
>
> Quentin,
>     If you just want to look at a production line on a monitor, why do you
> need any sort of interface at all? Why not just use a camera and a CCTV
> monitor?

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2001\10\24@055717 by Gennette, Bruce

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Sounds like a perfect job for a web cam and an old PC.  You just tell the
software to replace the current image at xx seconds.  And you can even save
all the images (or at least their thumbnails) for your records.

Let's see, web cam @ AU$90 + old 486 PC @ AU$0 + my consulting fee @ AU$ . .
.
ahhhmmm, let's say AU$600 and I'll even throw in free shipping.

Bye.

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2001\10\24@085342 by dale

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> I need to take a snap shot of a production line once or twice a sec.
> (video inspection).
> I am looking for a simple system that will take the shot and display it
> on a monitor.
> (the rate is PIC controlled, of course :) )

I have a (relatively) old Casio QV-10A digital camera.  It has a serial interface and a TV video output, so controlling it with a PIC should not be an insurmountable task.  You can pick up cameras like these dirt cheap...  I would imagine at least some new cameras have the same features.

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2001\10\24@090258 by dale

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> Video inspection is when you take snap shots at a certain rate so you
> can compare the shots for consistency. So I must be able to store and
> display one shot continuously until the next one. It's not a streaming
> video.

Hey, I just realized re my earlier suggestion of a digital camera...  don't know about new ones, but my QV-10A would only be able to take an image every 6 seconds or so, you'd need something faster.  Maybe the newer cameras are quick enough, I don't know...

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2001\10\24@163506 by Chris Carr

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SSTV  ?

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2001\10\24@184419 by M. Adam Davis

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Often these lines are constantly in motion.  You sense when a part is in
the correct area, snap a shot and hold it until the next part is in
position.

In this way inspectors can catch flaws more easily.

-Adam



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2001\10\24@185039 by Josh Koffman

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What about a digital camera? I know some have a video out, so all you'd
have to do is to figure out how to trigger it to take a picture...in
theory.

Hope that helps,

Josh Koffman

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2001\10\25@024746 by robertf

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Hello Quentin,

I still use my Snappy module-
(was $99 in the mid
90's)connects to a video cam,
parallel port- capture is
manual trigger.
I also had an ATI all in
wonder pro(pci)- connects to
camera, take stills every
second in the vcr mode in
automode. Yes, these are pc
based but they are relatively
cheap.

regards-rf


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> I need to take a snap shot
of a production line once or
twice a sec.
> (video inspection).
>

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2001\10\25@091507 by Steve Nordhauser

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Quentin,
Since you are talking about a production line, I would think in terms
of business.  Inventing a new wheel is usually not the best idea in terms
of development time.  If you want a fairly low cost solution, you might
try a Snappy (<$100) as the frame grabber.  I know they work on the
parallel port, there may be a USB version.  Then use a PC/104 PC
compatible.  It will be rugged, can boot and run from a ROMDisk,
development is in DOS so the software developer's kit for the Snappy
should work.  Put a network card in it and go.

The PC version would be a video card like the ATI all in wonder pro
for about $125 and a referbished machine from ComputerGeeks for
around $225 or so.  Plus a monitor.  More issues like you said, but
very easy to set up.  There is an SDK for ATI boards also.

At the very low end, if you want to go low resolution and wireless, and
not too far, look at the X10 stuff.  You can get a camera, transmitter and
receiver for <$100.  A variety of software, too.
Steve
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Date:    Wed, 24 Oct 2001 08:34:36 +0200
From:    Quentin <.....qscKILLspamspam.....ICON.CO.ZA>
Subject: [EE]: Video snap shot

I need to take a snap shot of a production line once or twice a sec.
(video inspection).
I am looking for a simple system that will take the shot and display it
on a monitor.
(the rate is PIC controlled, of course :) )
Now I've been searching and all I find is Frame grabbers.
First problem, they are expensive, second, they need a PC (PCI bus and
software control). I think using a PC in this case is a bit of a
overkill (beside adding problems of boot up and crashing).
Any other ideas?

Quentin

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2001\10\25@120719 by Olin Lathrop

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> There is an SDK for ATI boards also.

Really!?  Can you supply a pointer?  I'm interested in that.

I asked ATI about this a few years ago.  They basically said that they sell
millions of chips/boards, and the few extra they would sell for providing an
SDK isn't worth the productization and support costs.  I was dissappointed,
but could understand their reasoning.


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2001\10\26@095635 by Steve Nordhauser

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Olin,
I did a search on "ALL in wonder" ATI SDK at google.
Try:
www.ati.com/na/pages/resource_centre/dev_rel/aiwviddev.html
for windows developing....
                         DirectShow Video Capture Information

                         DirectShow™ for Windows 98, Windows ME and Windows 2000
                         To take advantage of ATI's video-in (S-video, Composite or TV-Tuner)
                         capability, Microsoft offers the DirectShow with the DirectX 8.0 SDK.
                         This provides developers with a programming interface to the video
                         input hardware. This standard SDK can be used with ATI's products
                         (RAGE PRO and later) that have video-in capability. This includes the
                         ALL-IN-WONDER and VIVO (video-in/video-out) line of products
They are also supporting Linux (search their site for Linux)

Sift through the Goggle hits.
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Date:    Thu, 25 Oct 2001 09:37:02 -0400
From:    Olin Lathrop <@spam@olin_piclistKILLspamspamEMBEDINC.COM>
Subject: Re: [EE]: Video snap shot

> There is an SDK for ATI boards also.

Really!?  Can you supply a pointer?  I'm interested in that.

I asked ATI about this a few years ago.  They basically said that they sell
millions of chips/boards, and the few extra they would sell for providing an
SDK isn't worth the productization and support costs.  I was dissappointed,
but could understand their reasoning.


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