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'[EE]: $10.99 USB dev system'
2006\02\21@214808 by Charles Craft

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I saw it in the Embedded section of Electronic Design.
Probably about as good as being slashdotted.  :-)
Not stock at Mouser and not sure where else to order it from.

http://www.silabs.com/tgwWebApp/public/web_content/products/Microcontrollers/en/ToolStick.htm

The ToolStick evaluation platform is a fully contained evaluation system in a USB stick that demonstrates Silicon Laboratories' easy-to-use development tools.

Using only a PC with a USB port, designers can fully experience the Silicon Laboratories software development environment in conjunction with the on-chip debugging hardware that allows full, non-intrusive access to the C8051F mixed-signal MCUs CPU, peripherals and memory. The target microcontroller on the board is a Silicon Laboratories C8051F300 which interfaces with the PC via the integrated Silicon Laboratories USB debug adapter that uses the C8051F321 USB MCU. The software development environment consists of the easy–to-use Integrated Development Environment (IDE), editor, debugger, Flash programmer as well as a demonstration version of the Keil compiler.

The ToolStick kit contains the following items:

   * ToolStick User’s Guide
   * CD-ROM containing Silicon Laboratories Integrated Development Environment (IDE)
   * Keil software 8051 development tools (limited 2K code-size C-compiler, assembler and linker)
   * Source code examples and register definition files
   * Documentation
   * Demo software


2006\02\21@231711 by Mario Mendes Jr.

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And for just us$99 you get the USB developer kit which includes a USB
debug adapter, and it is in stock.

www.silabs.com/tgwWebApp/public/web_content/products/Microcontrol
lers/USB/en/C8051F320DK.htm
Check out their little flash presentation at
http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/mkt/vendors/336_mod.html which talks about
the dev kit and royalty free use of their USB drivers that you can
redistribute with your apps.  I also saw somewhere in their site, but
cannot find that page again, that just like microchip, you can use their
VID with your apps.  I'm sure there are restrictions and fine print to
go with it, but worth looking into.




-mmj


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2006\02\21@234111 by Harold Hallikainen

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> And for just us$99 you get the USB developer kit which includes a USB
> debug adapter, and it is in stock.
>
> www.silabs.com/tgwWebApp/public/web_content/products/Microcontrol
> lers/USB/en/C8051F320DK.htm
> Check out their little flash presentation at
> http://dkc1.digikey.com/us/en/PTM/336_Mod.html which talks about
> the dev kit and royalty free use of their USB drivers that you can
> redistribute with your apps.  I also saw somewhere in their site, but
> cannot find that page again, that just like microchip, you can use their
> VID with your apps.  I'm sure there are restrictions and fine print to
> go with it, but worth looking into.
>

I'm using the CP2102 in a product. SiLabs gave us a PID to use in the
product along with their VID. I just dropped them an email. They wanted a
description of the product, then they sent me the PID.

Harold




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2006\02\23@022217 by William Chops Westfield

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On Feb 21, 2006, at 6:48 PM, Charles Craft wrote:
>
> http://www.silabs.com/tgwWebApp/public/web_content/products/
> Microcontrollers/en/ToolStick.htm
>
> The ToolStick evaluation platform is a fully contained evaluation
> system in a USB stick that demonstrates Silicon Laboratories'
> easy-to-use development tools.
>
Hmm.  I'm getting a bit pissed off at Si-labs low cost 'evaluation
kits" (to be fair, SiL doesn't CALL them "development systems.)
Both this board and the $25 C8051F064EK look like REALLY good
values on the surface, but dig a bit deeper and they're disturbingly
limited.   They're wired for a particular purpose, no general purpose
headers connecting to other pins, little or no "general purpose IO."
They're set up to demonstrate ONE particular application (apparently),
and that's about all they'll do.  the toolstick blinks LEDs, and the
C8051F064EK demonstrates some analog features.  Hmmph.

Atmel's Butterfly, or TI's new ez-430, are examples of similarly
smallish, but MUCH more versatile evaluation boards.  (Hmm.  I
wonder if Atmel will do a USB butterfly now?)

(yeah, I know.  Whine, whine...)

BillW

2006\02\23@030620 by Chen Xiao Fan

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> From: spam_OUTpiclist-bouncesTakeThisOuTspammit.edu
> On Behalf Of William "Chops" Westfield
> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 3:22 PM
> To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public.
> Subject: Re: [EE]: $10.99 USB dev system
>
> Hmm.  I'm getting a bit pissed off at Si-labs low cost 'evaluation
> kits" (to be fair, SiL doesn't CALL them "development systems.)
> Both this board and the $25 C8051F064EK look like REALLY good
> values on the surface, but dig a bit deeper and they're disturbingly
> limited.   They're wired for a particular purpose, no general purpose
> headers connecting to other pins, little or no "general purpose IO."
> They're set up to demonstrate ONE particular application (apparently),
> and that's about all they'll do.  the toolstick blinks LEDs, and the
> C8051F064EK demonstrates some analog features.  Hmmph.
>

I am not so sure about this US$10.99 USB ToolStick. At that kind of
price, can you expect more than it has offered?

I've played with the US$25 C8051F064EK and it is not as
limited as you suggested. I have returned to the distributor but
I was thinking of buying it before. Now we have two full-fledged
development kits so I do not need it any more.

It does not have all the port I/O available (For that you need the
F06xDK which includes the debugger and a demo board). It does have
the Port 0 available to the user. It also can do serial communication
and you do not need to have a serial port since USB/serial converter
(CP2101 based) is already on board. You also do not need a power
supply and a debugger as they are integrated. It has also on board
SRAM. At US$25, I think it is really a bargain. To say it is
"disturbingly limited" is a bit unfair.

For the more adventurous, you can also solder some wires from the
I/O ports...

> Atmel's Butterfly, or TI's new ez-430, are examples of similarly
> smallish, but MUCH more versatile evaluation boards.  (Hmm.  I
> wonder if Atmel will do a USB butterfly now?)
>

Atmel actually copied the idea to develop a USB key for the
new USB AVRs. I am not so sure if TI's new ez-430 is really
that expandable.

Regards,
Xiaofan

2006\02\23@033722 by William Chops Westfield

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On Feb 23, 2006, at 12:06 AM, Chen Xiao Fan wrote:

> I am not so sure if TI's new ez-430 is really that expandable.

It's not "expandable", but the sample microcontroller is on a
little detachable board, and has all 14 pins brought over to
a 2.54mm spaced set up holes, so you build arbitrary projects
with it (anything that that chip would have been useful for
in the first place.)

BillW

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