Post by thread:[AD]: 2x16 LCDs wanted

I'm not sure what quantity you need, but for my very small needs I usually go to BG Micro: http://www.bgmicro.com One they carry: P/N: LCD1031 $5.95/each TTYL On Wed, 2008-01-02 at 15:44 -0500, Martin Klingensmith wrote: > I'm looking for a source for 2x16 or 2x20 alpha numeric "44780" LCDs. A > couple years ago searching google for "LCD displays" would have been > easy. Do you have a good, inexpensive, source you'd like to share? > > Thanks > - > Martin

Martin Klingensmith wrote: > I'm looking for a source for 2x16 or 2x20 alpha numeric "44780" LCDs. A > couple years ago searching google for "LCD displays" would have been > easy. Do you have a good, inexpensive, source you'd like to share? > > Thanks > - > Martin > There's a guy on Ebay (of all places) that sells decent 4x20 backlit displays for $10 each! Get on Ebay and search "LCD displays". He probably sells the 2x20 as well. I can verify that they work fine. --Bob

Martin, Marlin P Jones and Associates have some 16x1 for $7.00 @ in quantity 10. I have a few that are 16x2, and have an LED backlight. I think I gave about $6.50 @ for them a few years back. If you only need a few, I'll part with a few of mine for what I gave for them. Let me know. Regards, Jim -----Original Message----- From: spam_OUTpiclist-bouncesTakeThisOuTmit.edu [.....piclist-bouncesKILLspam@spam@mit.edu] On Behalf Of Martin Klingensmith Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:44 PM To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: [AD]: 2x16 LCDs wanted I'm looking for a source for 2x16 or 2x20 alpha numeric "44780" LCDs. A couple years ago searching google for "LCD displays" would have been easy. Do you have a good, inexpensive, source you'd like to share? Thanks - Martin

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > Martin Klingensmith wrote: > >> I'm looking for a source for 2x16 or 2x20 alpha numeric "44780" LCDs. A >> couple years ago searching google for "LCD displays" would have been >> easy. Do you have a good, inexpensive, source you'd like to share? >> > > One or one million LCDs ? > Surplus or factory new ? > Anything from eBay ? > What is wrong with Google today ? > > 1 to 1000 surplus/factory new/working would be good eBay is undesirable "LCD displays" will get you a million hits for computer monitors, that's all I'm saying. Thanks - Martin

I think if you google "2x16 Character LCD" you will refine your search better as to what you are looking for. FJ> Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:11:01 -0500> From: martinKILLspamnnytech.net> To: .....piclistKILLspam.....mit.edu> Subject: Re: [AD]: 2x16 LCDs wanted> > Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:> > Martin Klingensmith wrote:> > > >> I'm looking for a source for 2x16 or 2x20 alpha numeric "44780" LCDs. A> >> couple years ago searching google for "LCD displays" would have been> >> easy. Do you have a good, inexpensive, source you'd like to share?> >> > >> > One or one million LCDs ?> > Surplus or factory new ?> > Anything from eBay ?> > What is wrong with Google today ?> >> > > 1 to 1000> surplus/factory new/working would be good> eBay is undesirable> "LCD displays" will get you a million hits for computer monitors, that's> all I'm saying.> > Thanks> -> Martin>

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > Martin Klingensmith wrote: > > >> 1 to 1000 >> > > :-) > > >> surplus/factory new/working would be good >> eBay is undesirable >> > > OK. > Is it eBay as such? Or is it the *sellers* on eBay ? > I'd look up one on eBay that looks nice and then contact > the seller directly for a larger deal. > > Jan-Erik. > He's got an Ebay "store". The display module is from Taiwan or China. --Bob

Bob Axtell wrote: {Quote hidden}> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: >> Martin Klingensmith wrote: >> >> >>> 1 to 1000 >>> >> :-) >> >> >>> surplus/factory new/working would be good >>> eBay is undesirable >>> >> OK. >> Is it eBay as such? Or is it the *sellers* on eBay ? >> I'd look up one on eBay that looks nice and then contact >> the seller directly for a larger deal. >> >> Jan-Erik. >> > He's got an Ebay "store". The display module is from Taiwan or China. Right, since you wrote this as a reply to me, who is "he" ? Martin ?? Jan-Erik.

Displaytech is a good cheap source Try googling for LCD character displays Martin Klingensmith <EraseMEmartinspam_OUTTakeThisOuTnnytech.net> wrote: Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: {Quote hidden}> Martin Klingensmith wrote: > >> I'm looking for a source for 2x16 or 2x20 alpha numeric "44780" LCDs. A >> couple years ago searching google for "LCD displays" would have been >> easy. Do you have a good, inexpensive, source you'd like to share? >> > > One or one million LCDs ? > Surplus or factory new ? > Anything from eBay ? > What is wrong with Google today ? > > 1 to 1000 surplus/factory new/working would be good eBay is undesirable "LCD displays" will get you a million hits for computer monitors, that's all I'm saying. Thanks - Martin

A "-" switch on an undesired keyword can go a long way, as well as grouping keywords together. lcd display -monitor or lcd character display -monitor or "lcd character display" -monitor http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=ilq&q=lcd+character+display+-monitor&btnG=Search >>> martinspam_OUTnnytech.net 02 Jan 08 16:11:01 >>> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: > Martin Klingensmith wrote: >> I'm looking for a source for 2x16 or 2x20 alpha numeric "44780" LCDs. A >> couple years ago searching google for "LCD displays" would have been >> easy. Do you have a good, inexpensive, source you'd like to share? <SNIP> > What is wrong with Google today ? <SNIP> "LCD displays" will get you a million hits for computer monitors, that's all I'm saying. Thanks - Martin

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: {Quote hidden}> Bob Axtell wrote: > > >> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote: >> >>> Martin Klingensmith wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> 1 to 1000 >>>> >>>> >>> :-) >>> >>> >>> >>>> surplus/factory new/working would be good >>>> eBay is undesirable >>>> >>>> >>> OK. >>> Is it eBay as such? Or is it the *sellers* on eBay ? >>> I'd look up one on eBay that looks nice and then contact >>> the seller directly for a larger deal. >>> >>> Jan-Erik. >>> >>> >> He's got an Ebay "store". The display module is from Taiwan or China. >> > > Right, since you wrote this as a reply to me, > who is "he" ? Martin ?? > > Jan-Erik. > "There's a guy on Ebay (of all places) that sells decent 4x20 backlit displays for $10 each! Get on Ebay and search "LCD displays". He probably sells the 2x20 as well. I can verify that they work fine. --Bob" Bob, not Martin. Jan-Erik: Good idea on contacting the seller directly. I'd rather not deal with buying through eBay for production :) - Martin

Hi Martin- I think CrystalFontz is a good source -- nice selection, new product and not a bad price at 10 and above: http://www.crystalfontz.com Or, for example: www.crystalfontz.com/cgi-bin/pricing.pl?product=1602a for the 16x2. Nice modules, too! David Quoting Martin Klingensmith <@spam@martinKILLspamnnytech.net>: > I'm looking for a source for 2x16 or 2x20 alpha numeric "44780" LCDs. A > couple years ago searching google for "LCD displays" would have been > easy. Do you have a good, inexpensive, source you'd like to share? > > Thanks > - > Martin > --

> -----Original Message----- > From: KILLspampiclist-bouncesKILLspammit.edu [RemoveMEpiclist-bouncesTakeThisOuTmit.edu] On Behalf > Of Martin Klingensmith > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:44 PM > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: [AD]: 2x16 LCDs wanted > > I'm looking for a source for 2x16 or 2x20 alpha numeric "44780" LCDs. A > couple years ago searching google for "LCD displays" would have been > easy. Do you have a good, inexpensive, source you'd like to share? > > Thanks > - > Martin > -

Martin, Oooops, that first one got away on me too quick. I have bought several displays from Ebay store Sure Electronics. 16X2 regular $1.99, with white with blue backlight #3.98. 24X2 regular or white with red backlight $6.95, 20X4 white with blue backlight $8.93, graphics displays also. And of course lots of other neat stuff. I have ordered from them several times now, no problems. http://stores.ebay.ca/Sure-Electronics Bill van Dijk > {Original Message removed}

Martin, I have bought several displays from Ebay store Sureelectronics. 16X2 regular $1.99, with white with blue backlight #3.98. 24X2 regular or white with red backlight $6.95, 20X4 white with blue backlight $8.93, graphics displays also. And of course lots of other neat stuff. I have ordered from them several times now, no problems. http://stores.ebay.ca/Sure-Electronics Bill van Dijk > {Original Message removed}

I'd have to second buying electronics from Sure Electronics, in general. Their stuff is well packaged/labeled, and he has always been willing to negotiate on price when combining shipments (provided you ask). Not as fast getting to me as the more local (in country) big box electronics warehouses, but for the price and (so far) quality, it's right on the mark. On 1/3/08, Bill van Dijk <spamBeGonebvdijkspamBeGoneigs.net> wrote: {Quote hidden}> Martin, > > Oooops, that first one got away on me too quick. > > I have bought several displays from Ebay store Sure Electronics. 16X2 > regular $1.99, with white with blue backlight #3.98. 24X2 regular or white > with red backlight $6.95, 20X4 white with blue backlight $8.93, graphics > displays also. And of course lots of other neat stuff. I have ordered from > them several times now, no problems. > > http://stores.ebay.ca/Sure-Electronics > > Bill van Dijk

Bill, On Thu, 3 Jan 2008 18:12:39 -0500, Bill van Dijk wrote: > Martin, > > Oooops, that first one got away on me too quick. Didn't it just! I got an earlier version of this message, then a no-reply one, then this one! :-) > I have bought several displays from Ebay store Sure Electronics. 16X2 > regular $1.99, with white with blue backlight #3.98. 24X2 regular or white > with red backlight $6.95, 20X4 white with blue backlight $8.93, graphics > displays also. And of course lots of other neat stuff. I have ordered from > them several times now, no problems. I've bought quite a lot of stuff from them, and the white/blue LCDs are very good (and neat, without the overhanging PCB that some of them have) but a couple of cautions: Sure Electronics often refuse to combine shipping, which means there's no economy of scale when buying from them - the price+shipping applies to each item you buy. Secondly, I have had two occasions where they have sent a shipment short, so you have to check what you receive carefully. They have always sent on the missing items when I've pointed out the error, but it's annoying to have it happen in the first place. And coming from the Far East, shipping isn't fast! I'd guess an average of a week, but can be up to two weeks. Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England

On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 16:16:32 +0000 (GMT), you wrote: >Sure Electronics often refuse to combine shipping, which means there's no economy of scale when buying from them - the price+shipping applies to each >item you buy. Not unusual. ebay take a cut of the selling price so artificially inflated shipping means less money for ebay, more money for the seller and/or better value for you. Artificially inflated shipping also effectively increases the starting price and ebay listing charges increase with starting price. ebay are now "Clamping Down on Unfair Postage & Packaging Charges" They say "We are introducing this change as a first step towards curbing excessive postage and packaging charges on the site. These excessive charges deter buyers from continuing to make their purchases on eBay, and harm the success of the vast majority of good sellers on the site." while they are actually clamping down because it hurts their bottom line.

Lamebert wrote: > ebay are now "Clamping Down on Unfair Postage & Packaging Charges" > > They say "We are introducing this change as a first step towards curbing > excessive postage and packaging charges on the site. These excessive > charges deter buyers from continuing to make their purchases on eBay, and > harm the success of the vast majority of good sellers on the site." > > while they are actually clamping down because it hurts their bottom line. > > Personally I'd rather pay what the shipping costs and what the item costs. It was really ridiculous a few years ago on many discount sites linked from pricewatch.com, for example. Something would cost $20 and have $35 shipping. - Martin

Martin, On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 14:59:14 -0500, Martin wrote: >... > Personally I'd rather pay what the shipping costs and what the item > costs. Me too! > It was really ridiculous a few years ago on many discount sites > linked from pricewatch.com, for example. Something would cost $20 and > have $35 shipping. I've seen much worse on eBay - $3 for the item, $20 shipping! I'm not surprised that eBay are starting to "clamp down" on this, I'm rather surprised it's taken them so long! Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England

On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 20:23 +0000, Howard Winter wrote: > I've seen much worse on eBay - $3 for the item, $20 shipping! > > I'm not surprised that eBay are starting to "clamp down" on this, I'm rather surprised it's taken them so long! I'm not. There's no clear way to automate it. For example, paying $50 shipping for a $20 may be reasonable, it depends what the $20 item is. If it's a stick of computer memory then it's not reasonable, if it's a really old and heavy non working OScope it might be. It doesn't even have to be restricted to heavy items. Physically large items can be quite expensive to ship, say something like a plastic body panel for a car: it only weighs a few pounds, and may only be worth $20, but it can be very expensive to ship since it's so large. eBay SAYS they will clamp down on this, and I'm sure they will hit some people, but I doubt there's any way to stop the practice without ticking off alot of legitimate people. TTYL

Ebay is a huge database ripe for mining, so they can automate a lot of it. Further, they've integrated UPS and Paypal in such a manner that sellers get a discount on shipping if they use this system, which will then provide Ebay with shipping weight and size. But for the most part the best they can do is put a button on each auction page that allows other ebay users to flag auctions for S&H review. Get enough flags on an auction and an ebay person looks at the listing. Other sellers, who are hurt by this and have very good profiles, will flag competitors and the problem will largely self stabilise. This does require more overhead on ebay's part (they have to maintain an internal listing of people who flag well, and those who flag badly so they can discount bad flaggers). But over time they can automate it using their customers. -Adam On Jan 4, 2008 5:06 PM, Herbert Graf <TakeThisOuTmailinglist4EraseMEspam_OUTfarcite.net> wrote: {Quote hidden}> > On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 20:23 +0000, Howard Winter wrote: > > I've seen much worse on eBay - $3 for the item, $20 shipping! > > > > I'm not surprised that eBay are starting to "clamp down" on this, I'm rather surprised it's taken them so long! > > I'm not. There's no clear way to automate it. > > For example, paying $50 shipping for a $20 may be reasonable, it depends > what the $20 item is. > > If it's a stick of computer memory then it's not reasonable, if it's a > really old and heavy non working OScope it might be. > > It doesn't even have to be restricted to heavy items. Physically large > items can be quite expensive to ship, say something like a plastic body > panel for a car: it only weighs a few pounds, and may only be worth $20, > but it can be very expensive to ship since it's so large. > > eBay SAYS they will clamp down on this, and I'm sure they will hit some > people, but I doubt there's any way to stop the practice without ticking > off alot of legitimate people. > > TTYL > > -

At 05:26 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote: >Herbert Graf wrote: > > > I'm not. There's no clear way to automate it. > >Right. > >I have personaly sold a lot using auctions on >eBay starting at $0.01 with shipping in the $8-10 >range. Nothing funny with that, the shipping is actual >and they usualy ends at a way higher price anyway. > >They have to check it case by case I guess... > >Jan-Erik. Or by complaints (typically from other vendors, of course). >Best regards, Spehro Pefhany --"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward" RemoveMEspeffTakeThisOuTinterlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

I think the world is ready for an alternative to eBay. It just has to be innovative enough to separate itself. People, especially sellers, are really starting to hate eBay. I don't see how eBay justifies the fees they charge, and the hassles they force upon sellers is ridiculous. Ever try to get your fees back for an unpaid item? Two separate types of hoops are put up, and their "free" relisting conditions are unworkable. And the feedback system? Basically worthless, and they try to block sites that attempt to make it work, like toolhaus.org It's like Dilbert's boss runs eBay, with help from that cat from the H.R. department and the weasel who writes the business plans. Back on topic, if you want a consistent source of quality LCD displays at a reasonable price, Crystalfontz is a good choice. You'll get LCDs that meet spec and look great. If you just want to take potluck on a small batch, All Electronics is good, but it's surplus so there's no provenance. Cheerful regards, Bob Alan B. Pearce wrote: >> But for the most part the best they can do is put a button on each >> auction page that allows other ebay users to flag auctions for S&H >> review. Get enough flags on an auction and an ebay person looks at >> the listing. > > They already have this in the 'star rating' system when providing feedback. > One of the questions is about S&H charges being reasonable. >

Alan B. Pearce wrote: >>But for the most part the best they can do is put a button on each >>auction page that allows other ebay users to flag auctions for S&H >>review. Get enough flags on an auction and an ebay person looks at >>the listing. >> >> > >They already have this in the 'star rating' system when providing feedback. >One of the questions is about S&H charges being reasonable. > > > EBAY only will hear complaints from their POWER SELLERS. They due several thousand dollars a month of business a month. If you are not one of them you are wasting your time trying to file a complaint. RECON

I have seen CrystalFontz before, and it is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the recommendations everyone. - Martin Bob Blick wrote: {Quote hidden}> Back on topic, if you want a consistent source of quality LCD displays > at a reasonable price, Crystalfontz is a good choice. You'll get LCDs > that meet spec and look great. If you just want to take potluck on a > small batch, All Electronics is good, but it's surplus so there's no > provenance. > > Cheerful regards, > > Bob > > >

On Jan 5, 2008, at 5:33 PM, Bob Blick wrote: > I think the world is ready for an alternative to eBay. There already are alternatives, but they don't have the marketing nor the numbers of users looking at your wares as eBay has. In fact many have gone under trying to compete with eBay, so folks voted for eBay with their wallets. Craigslist is great for some stuff. -- Nate Duehr nateEraseME.....natetech.com