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'(VERY OT) Toner for laser printer'
1998\08\03@125339 by Alberto Smulders

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Somewhere I've seen that there is a possibility for refilling laser printer
toner cartridges.
My HP Laserjet IIIP toner cartridge is empty, I have to do some (urgent)
originals for PCB's, and worse, I cannot become anywhere in this (sh.....)
town a new cartridge (and if I could they are hyper-expensive in this
country, around U+ACQ- 110).
Does somebody know the kind of toner (for which brand of fotocopy machine) I
can use for refilling the cartridge?

Lots of thanks to everybody who can respond my question +ACEAIQAh-

Regards,

Albert A.Smulders
InSAD - Encarnacion, Paraguay
insad+AEA-itacom.com.py

1998\08\04@021538 by Morgan Olsson

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I believe there is very little difference between all modern photocopiers
toners.  (The salesmen of cours all say their is revolutionary the best...)
/Morgan

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1998\08\04@063059 by Harijs Melders

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>I believe there is very little difference between all modern photocopiers
>toners.  (The salesmen of cours all say their is revolutionary the best...)
>/Morgan

But this ''little'' difference make documents unreadable or dirty black.
I know it from experience when refilled HP Laserjet5L with Canon
copiers toner. Apparently firms in this business make toners only
for they own machines.

Regards,
Harijs.

1998\08\04@092526 by Morgan Olsson

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At 13:30 1998-08-04 +0300, you wrote:
>>I believe there is very little difference between all modern photocopiers
>>toners.  (The salesmen of cours all say their is revolutionary the best...)
>>/Morgan
>
>But this ''little'' difference make documents unreadable or dirty black.
>I know it from experience when refilled HP Laserjet5L with Canon
>copiers toner. Apparently firms in this business make toners only
>for they own machines.

I believe it has to do with different voltage needed for the photosensitive
drum to collect the different brand particles.

Probably the technology of copiers and laser printers move parallel, so i
would try to get the same age and brand of substitute.

(I wonder, will there also maybe be a cassette that fits both a copier and
a printer?)

I had a HL Laserjet II before. It had a knob directly under the hood to
adjust blackness.

About brands, i think it is a little strange...
Actually in HP Lj II it is a *Canon* prining machinery.

When i reapired it, it costed only 1/8 to get the original part fron Canon
(the hot drum), than to go through HP, who only could deliver the whole
drum machinery !

PS, When refilling it is common, abd often needed to renew the wiper rods
(don«t know the english word) DS

/Morgan


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>Regards,
>Harijs.
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1998\08\04@094824 by Anthony Wilson

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Nope.
I've tried refilling a HP laser printer cartridge with Sharp copier toner.
My printouts were a big black smear.
All toners are not created equal.

1998\08\04@114123 by Peter L. Peres

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On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Morgan Olsson wrote:

> I believe there is very little difference between all modern photocopiers
> toners.  (The salesmen of cours all say their is revolutionary the best...)
> /Morgan

The difference is small, but if you pick one that has too low a fusing
temperature you will need a new fuser unit.

In my experience the older the unit the higher the fusing temperature of
the toner.

If you manage to pick one with too high a fusing temperature, then there
will be toner flaking off the printed sheet.

If it's too low, you get to remove the jammed paper from the fuser unit.

It's not as bad as it sounds, and sticking to toner from a machine
manufactured in the same year as the printer is a good idea imho.

Peter

1998\08\04@132731 by Goncalves

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Hi

Toner's varies of mark for mark and of model for model.
The features of upper-class temperature with the density of blacks are
sufficiently Great.
I work in Xerox and recommend not to use other to toner case not
indicated by the manufacturer.
It exists in the market to toner recycled for the HP that is not very
expensive.

Good luck




Jose Goncalves
Cg2spamKILLspamarauto.uminho.pt

1998\08\11@144524 by Tom Crane

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> On Mon, 3 Aug 1998, Morgan Olsson wrote:
>
> > I believe there is very little difference between all modern photocopiers
> > toners.  (The salesmen of cours all say their is revolutionary the best...)
> > /Morgan
>
> The difference is small, but if you pick one that has too low a fusing
> temperature you will need a new fuser unit.

[further details cut]

Do you know if there is a difference between the material in the
'toner/developer cartridge' of an Epson EPL-5500 laser printer, for
example and the straight 'toner cartridge' which most laser printers
describe themselves as having?

Regards
Tom.

1998\08\12@131115 by david

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I too use a LJ IIIP for PCB artwork. I find that, while cheaper
re-manufactured cartridges give good results on paper, they don't
print as well as HP originals on the translucent film used for the
artwork - they leave pinholes which have to be retouched manually
before the UV process.

I don't have shares in HP!

Original message:

>Somewhere I've seen that there is a possibility for refilling laser printer
>toner cartridges.
>My HP Laserjet IIIP toner cartridge is empty, I have to do some (urgent)
>originals for PCB's
<snip>
>Regards,
>
>Albert A.Smulders
>InSAD - Encarnacion, Paraguay
>insad+AEA-itacom.com.py


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David Waterhouse <.....davidKILLspamspam.....davespc.demon.co.uk>

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